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[–] llama@lemmy.zip 55 points 1 day ago (5 children)

If Lemmy is supposed to be the place where the most tech savvy people in the interest congregate, and everyone in the comments is unsatisfied with AI then we really do have a problem. These companies have all reached a point where they no longer listen to their most informed customer base but instead take 100% of direction from investors who don't even know what they want except a line going up.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Lemmy is not the most tech savvy people on the internet nor the customer base for AI. Where did you get either of those ideas?

[–] llama@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Because you have to be tech savvy to understand what the fediverse is or how ActivityPub works so it sets the filter for a userbase that evangelizes emerging technology.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Yeah. Signing up for a social service doesn’t make you the most technical person in the world.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 14 points 1 day ago

Investments and income have been divorced from reality for a while now, bud.

[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Eh. Lemmy has a lot of ignorance surrounding technology and science compared to other sites. Hacker News is what you're looking for if you want somewhere that is full of the most tech savvy people on the Internet, and most of them are extremely pro AI (with some weird AI cultishness alongside). Myself I think AI is a bubble but there is a lot of promise in the underlying technology once you take away the hype, just like the .com bubble at the turn of the century.

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

Hacker News is a site full of tech cultists and apologists.

[–] Bunbury@feddit.nl 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I am not sure if you have discussed AI in a room full of hackers recently, lol. I have. Maybe 1/100 is pro-Generative AI in my estimation:

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Too many people equate AI with LLMs only. LLMs are mostly bubbled bullshit, with a few limited use cases. But AI is a much broader topic. The really scary AI is the stuff we hear little to nothing about.

People also forget how dramatically tech can advance over time. Spoiled impatient Americans in particular want a finished product or they quickly write it off as "garbage". They forget every product we own and use was once "garbage".

[–] axx@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago

Lobste.rs is probably even more on the "engineers talking to engineers" side of things. I've not visited in a while and am not sure what people there think of (the current crop of gen)AI.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If Lemmy is supposed to be the place where the most tech savvy people in the interest congregate

Says who? Mostly feels more like sales than R&D here. Which kinda fits with these pitches.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I feel like someone working at the pointy end of R&D in AI isn't necessarily well placed to predict the future of AI.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Bubble is an econ term. Whether there is an AI bubble has a rather tenuous connection to the future of AI. Not much of a connection between the housing bubble and the future of housing either.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

Feel like the internet bubble is an even better comparison, the internet is completely ubiquitous now

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Yes but my point is, a brick layer isn't the best person to ask about the future of housing.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

Feels more like the brick layer is equivalent to someone paid to create training data. You absolutely would want to ask the architects and engineers researching no ways in housing and construction. Not that they know what avenues of research will work out, but they do know the avenues of research.

No one expected the splash that LLMs or image diffusion models would make. Years later, the conversations on Lemmy are still dominated by people who still haven't looked up how they work.

GPTs completely nuked the whole field of natural language processing (NLP). People had dedicated years of their lives to solving tiny aspects of that. That got solved practically over night. Sentiment analysis? Just ask the chatbot. Some of the seemingly smart people who make seemingly informed criticisms of LLMs are NLP guys, who just can't let go of their old ideas.

[–] dick_fineman@discuss.online 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I thought it was the place for people who didn't want their shitposting interrupted by random child porn. Am...am I in the wrong place???

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Unfortunately Lemmy is rife with CSAM too, but the larger instances have done a pretty great job eliminating it.

Smaller instances still get dumped on sometimes.

Edit: actually it feels like it’s been a year or so since any CSAM spam events, so good job everyone

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I disagree with main post and agree with edit. I've only seen abuse material on Lemmy once and it was on an instance that didn't have an automated moderation tool for image uploads and they promptly added that mitigation step after it happened

[–] Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Suddenly I’m extremely worried about using lemmy. What’s the right way to respond if something is seen. Call the police? FBI hotline or something? Certainly screenshotting anything to send to authorities is out of the question but as soon as an image is loaded a device downloads it to cache so it’s like a dirty bomb just sitting on your device at that point. I have been blissfully ignorant that anything I use in my day to day would ever share a space with such abhorrent behavior. Kind of not sure I should still use the service, like that has actually been an issue on here before?

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're fine, they go after the ones sharing it, of course if you want to tell authorities you can, just you're not going to get in trouble for accidentally stumbling upon some asshat being a pedo. It does very much keep me from wanting to run my own instance though.

[–] Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thank you got the comment, I never even considered the risk as someone running an instance.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

Yeah, unless you prevent image uploads it's possible and easy for someone to put that shit on a drive you own which then means you're technically distributing and harboring it.

Scary stuff

[–] dick_fineman@discuss.online 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Happy to say I haven't seen that shit here yet...unlike Reddit and 4chan.

[–] EmilieEasie@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Same, and additionally, no one so far has been randomly extremely misogynist toward me either. I can mostly say completely uncontroversial things like "women fought for their right to vote in the early 1900s" without getting 30 bad faith and whataboutisms in my replies. It's sooo nice.

[–] dick_fineman@discuss.online 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Let me mansplain to you why it was actually the 1920s, and also something about sandwiches. PENIS POWER!

[–] EmilieEasie@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Your user name made that much, much better

[–] dick_fineman@discuss.online 1 points 1 hour ago

Don't femsplain away my super awesome masulinipower. I am penis, holder of dick. Whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you.

[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

As a man, I'm happy to know that about Lemmy.

[–] EmilieEasie@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 14 hours ago

It's a night and day difference from reddit. I hope it lasts forever!

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

It’s always interesting to read the experiences of others. The one and only time I stumbled on cp was in the late 90s. Haven’t seen it on reddit or lemmy. Our bubbles keep us isolated.