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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 42 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Hehe. Imagine managing your house in the cloud, and suddenly there is no heating, no light, all the "smart" appliances don't work anymore, and the shower only produces cold water, because the shower thermostat got a "0" as return value when asking for the preferred temperature...

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

There's a good reason why I refuse to use cloud connected or Internet required "smart" devices.

It's essentially an excuse for shitty engineering.

If you really need a device to be cloud connected then it can also maintain local data when the remote server is down. Even better, it uses an open spec and you can standup your own server.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Dream on, meanwhile the world will be buying $8 cloud connected "smart switches" because they're the cheapest, easiest to install things out there and even grandma is able to say "hey Alexa, turn on the coffee maker" and make it work.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Joke's on them. My coffee maker has a physical button!

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is why Home Assistant exists.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Of course. But 99% of the population is either too lazy or to dumb for that, or such problems would not exist.

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 4 points 5 months ago

99% of the population doesn't have IOT in their houses

[–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (4 children)

It's not that far off. I woke up to an Internet outage and none of my home lighting routines fired off and I couldn't control my lights via wifi. I got it under control shifting to Bluetooth but for a second it was infuriating.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

the fact that your home network setup for this relies on an internet connection is baffling

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Games that require persistent internet are baffling to me... I mean the hitman games cannot store your mission achievements offline...

But games are games... if my stove and fridge and showers (fucking showers with wifi?) Need internet connectivity then that is bullshit. They are being too fucking optimistic about everything.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Games like that are also baffling to me, thankfully I've not purchased one but I would return it as soon as I discovered the limitation if that were to happen

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 1 points 5 months ago

I bought just the hitman game because I am a completionist and I just want that one. I don't care for many other games.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Was getting up and turning on the light switch not an option?

[–] Makhno@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago
[–] cevn@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like someone needs HomeAssistant..

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Mostly they need to move to Zigbee/Matter or similar.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 3 points 5 months ago

I had about a dozen WeMo devices controlling various stuff around the house, they just accumulated over the years. About a year ago, I "got serious" and ripped out all the cloud connected stuff and setup a Zigbee based Home Assistant system. It's about 5x more capable than the old hodge podge of cloud devices, much lower lag, much better management capabilities, and when the internet connection goes down, it still works. The cloud devices would take long coffee breaks about twice a year.

[–] thatonecoder@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

God, so many things gone wrong there. At least they could use “30” as the default value, right???

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That would break physics (assuming you're using Celsius)

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

well considering it controls a heat exchanger device it can only break you

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

NM, I had it in my head that absolute zero is -253.15, but it's -273.15

[–] nevemsenki@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Hey, I could at least observe superconductors at home!

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

at least its not -254