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Is it that time when I say "oh shit!" and starts to look at alternatives? I've seen this scenario a hundred times already and I'm tired.
Sigh. This will be a huge pita. I have probably over 100 things saved into bitwarden. Where's a good foss alternative.
GabeN, please don't die before me.
I’ve been pretty happy with Apple passwords
I don't have the patience to switch to alternatives until they make a change that actually affects the usability of the tool.
This is absolutely a red flag though.
Just FYI, you can export your Bitwarden database to plain text and import that with KeePassXC
All the attachments, though... man this is going to be such a pain :/
Same question here. What are the best alternatives?
KeePassXC is the best FOSS option, but you'll need to figure out self hosting if you want to sync the database between devices.
or use syncthing, no hosting experience required
I found the easiest way to sync is to use rclone. This way you can use any cloud provider like Google Drive or OneDrive or DropBox. First create the rclone remote for your cloud provider using
rclone config. Second step is to create a second remote using the encryption option (menu item 16), choosing an appropriate path<first remote>:<path to directory>. Upload your KeepassXC database to this encrypted remote usingrclone copy.On Android you can use the RoundSync app from F-droid to configure the the same remotes, then create a task to copy or sync from that encrypted remote and a trigger to run that task on a schedule. Overall, this one-time setup works really well for me. This is my backup in addition to using Bitwarden for several years. Bitwarden is not going to get my money any more.
As the database is encrypted in your device, you dont really need to self host. A keepass database in the Google cloud is not really problematic, although you should still choose a more private cloud provider.
Syncthing is probably a simple fix.
Assuming you have a degoogle'd phone. The syncthing-fork devs announced that they aren't going to certify for Google Play when that's made a requirement in a few months
https://f-droid.org/packages/com.chiller3.basicsync/
Ugh, I forgot about this. Aren't you still going to be able to install apps from third-party marketplaces? I thought the plan was just that the phone was going to hassle you and require multiple hoops.
Yes, that's the plan
I think other apps will require ADB to install
After initial wait period of 24 hours, which is intolerably dumb, you don't need ADB.
make sure to use post-quantum encryption algs
Which algs would that be? ed25519 okay? Is that even an encryption alg? I'm not too hot with encryption.
And you can use a keyfile separate from the database for even more security. If the database is backed up on Google Drive and the keyfile is saved on a USB or in a (non-Google) email somewhere for the rare times you add a new device, your passwords should be safe even from keyloggers or Google themselves.
I use Vaultwarden
But you still use the official BW client apps, correct?
Unless you forego usage of the clients and access Vaultwarden through the browser (removing accessibility and convenience especially on mobile), it is not an e2e replacement solution.
Are there any alternative FOSS clients/apps that work with Vaultwarden?
Edit: I see further down that the official client is open source, and would get forked in the event of any fuckery. So I'm sticking with Vaultwarden + Official client app approach for now.
I just use the webapp UI and don't bother with the clients/extensions. Easy enough to just log in, copy/paste from there.
But yeah, the official client (and probably browser extension as well) would probably be forked if/when needed.
What about passkeys?
For now
Alias vault seems the most feature complete and self hostable https://www.aliasvault.net/
Coincidentally, I moved to self-hosting Vaultwarden last night, which is open source but compatible with Bitwarden. If you want a simple transition and are capable of hosting it yourself, that would be my recommendation.
I've been hosting it for a couple years now and question why it took me so long.
I use keepassxc. It does the job.
Proton Pass.
I'm pretty sure that isn't self hostable.
That's true.