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I find this move concerning, and wish that the Founder had looked for a new CEO that shared his values rather than a Private Equity and Mergers Expert.

Furthermore, the change to the GRIT motto is worrying. Trust is useless without Transparency when it comes to code and security.

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[–] one_old_coder@piefed.social 221 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

Is it that time when I say "oh shit!" and starts to look at alternatives? I've seen this scenario a hundred times already and I'm tired.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 hour ago

Sigh. This will be a huge pita. I have probably over 100 things saved into bitwarden. Where's a good foss alternative.

GabeN, please don't die before me.

[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

I’ve been pretty happy with Apple passwords

[–] Godort@lemmy.ca 62 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I don't have the patience to switch to alternatives until they make a change that actually affects the usability of the tool.

This is absolutely a red flag though.

[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 38 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Just FYI, you can export your Bitwarden database to plain text and import that with KeePassXC

[–] alakey@piefed.social 10 points 10 hours ago

All the attachments, though... man this is going to be such a pain :/

[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 50 points 12 hours ago (6 children)

Same question here. What are the best alternatives?

[–] zikzak025@lemmy.world 74 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

KeePassXC is the best FOSS option, but you'll need to figure out self hosting if you want to sync the database between devices.

[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 1 points 1 hour ago

or use syncthing, no hosting experience required

[–] tremble5218@programming.dev 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I found the easiest way to sync is to use rclone. This way you can use any cloud provider like Google Drive or OneDrive or DropBox. First create the rclone remote for your cloud provider using rclone config. Second step is to create a second remote using the encryption option (menu item 16), choosing an appropriate path <first remote>:<path to directory>. Upload your KeepassXC database to this encrypted remote using rclone copy.

On Android you can use the RoundSync app from F-droid to configure the the same remotes, then create a task to copy or sync from that encrypted remote and a trigger to run that task on a schedule. Overall, this one-time setup works really well for me. This is my backup in addition to using Bitwarden for several years. Bitwarden is not going to get my money any more.

[–] M1k3y@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

As the database is encrypted in your device, you dont really need to self host. A keepass database in the Google cloud is not really problematic, although you should still choose a more private cloud provider.

[–] meathappening@lemmy.ml 18 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Syncthing is probably a simple fix.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 24 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Assuming you have a degoogle'd phone. The syncthing-fork devs announced that they aren't going to certify for Google Play when that's made a requirement in a few months

[–] meathappening@lemmy.ml 12 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Ugh, I forgot about this. Aren't you still going to be able to install apps from third-party marketplaces? I thought the plan was just that the phone was going to hassle you and require multiple hoops.

[–] punkibas@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 hours ago

Yes, that's the plan

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I think other apps will require ADB to install

[–] napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

After initial wait period of 24 hours, which is intolerably dumb, you don't need ADB.

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

make sure to use post-quantum encryption algs

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Which algs would that be? ed25519 okay? Is that even an encryption alg? I'm not too hot with encryption.

[–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

And you can use a keyfile separate from the database for even more security. If the database is backed up on Google Drive and the keyfile is saved on a USB or in a (non-Google) email somewhere for the rare times you add a new device, your passwords should be safe even from keyloggers or Google themselves.

[–] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 27 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)
[–] refract@lemmy.zip 13 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

But you still use the official BW client apps, correct?

Unless you forego usage of the clients and access Vaultwarden through the browser (removing accessibility and convenience especially on mobile), it is not an e2e replacement solution.

Are there any alternative FOSS clients/apps that work with Vaultwarden?

Edit: I see further down that the official client is open source, and would get forked in the event of any fuckery. So I'm sticking with Vaultwarden + Official client app approach for now.

[–] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I just use the webapp UI and don't bother with the clients/extensions. Easy enough to just log in, copy/paste from there.

But yeah, the official client (and probably browser extension as well) would probably be forked if/when needed.

[–] napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

What about passkeys?

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago
[–] xnx@piefed.social 3 points 6 hours ago

Alias vault seems the most feature complete and self hostable https://www.aliasvault.net/

[–] meathappening@lemmy.ml 20 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Coincidentally, I moved to self-hosting Vaultwarden last night, which is open source but compatible with Bitwarden. If you want a simple transition and are capable of hosting it yourself, that would be my recommendation.

[–] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 8 points 9 hours ago

I've been hosting it for a couple years now and question why it took me so long.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 11 points 9 hours ago

I use keepassxc. It does the job.

[–] h54@programming.dev 20 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 16 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure that isn't self hostable.

[–] h54@programming.dev 2 points 8 hours ago