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I find this move concerning, and wish that the Founder had looked for a new CEO that shared his values rather than a Private Equity and Mergers Expert.

Furthermore, the change to the GRIT motto is worrying. Trust is useless without Transparency when it comes to code and security.

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[–] one_old_coder@piefed.social 300 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

Is it that time when I say "oh shit!" and starts to look at alternatives? I've seen this scenario a hundred times already and I'm tired.

[–] Godort@lemmy.ca 122 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't have the patience to switch to alternatives until they make a change that actually affects the usability of the tool.

This is absolutely a red flag though.

[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 73 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Just FYI, you can export your Bitwarden database to plain text and import that with KeePassXC

[–] alakey@piefed.social 22 points 2 weeks ago

All the attachments, though... man this is going to be such a pain :/

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[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 63 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

Same question here. What are the best alternatives?

[–] zikzak025@lemmy.world 97 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

KeePassXC is the best FOSS option, but you'll need to figure out self hosting if you want to sync the database between devices.

[–] M1k3y@discuss.tchncs.de 41 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

As the database is encrypted in your device, you dont really need to self host. A keepass database in the Google cloud is not really problematic, although you should still choose a more private cloud provider.

[–] meathappening@lemmy.ml 28 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Syncthing is probably a simple fix.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Assuming you have a degoogle'd phone. The syncthing-fork devs announced that they aren't going to certify for Google Play when that's made a requirement in a few months

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[–] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 34 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)
[–] refract@lemmy.zip 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

But you still use the official BW client apps, correct?

Unless you forego usage of the clients and access Vaultwarden through the browser (removing accessibility and convenience especially on mobile), it is not an e2e replacement solution.

Are there any alternative FOSS clients/apps that work with Vaultwarden?

Edit: I see further down that the official client is open source, and would get forked in the event of any fuckery. So I'm sticking with Vaultwarden + Official client app approach for now.

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[–] meathappening@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Coincidentally, I moved to self-hosting Vaultwarden last night, which is open source but compatible with Bitwarden. If you want a simple transition and are capable of hosting it yourself, that would be my recommendation.

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[–] ulkesh@piefed.social 204 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Why the fuck does everything that's good turn to shit? This world sucks. This timeline sucks.

[–] kazerniel@lemmy.world 87 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

it's all motivated by the accumulation of wealth = capitalism

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[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 59 points 2 weeks ago

It's not a timeline. It's just the world we keep making. The only one.

[–] perviouslyiner@lemmy.world 35 points 2 weeks ago

VC ruins everything

This is literally a product where a hobbyist tried to fix a niche, and now the VCs arrive.

[–] kazerniel@lemmy.world 124 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

reading this as someone who migrated the rest of the household to Bitwarden literally yesterday: 😒

[–] nocturne@slrpnk.net 37 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

It took me years after the lastpass breach to get my wife and 1/3 of my kids to switch to Bitwarden. I am not looking to having to migrate again.

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[–] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 91 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Luckily BW is open source, and VaultWarden exists. If they enshitify, all it takes is a fork of the browser extensions and apps with a rebrand.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 37 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

This right here is the only answer

Companies can try to steal the app but they can only steal the name

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[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 85 points 2 weeks ago

1Password took investor funding, moved to subscription and focusing on corporate.

Bitwarden heading the same way. Great…

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 61 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

This is troubling and I am going to accelerate my migration to Vaultwarden. I'm not going to leave Bitwarden yet but I saw how this played out with LastPass, and I was a happy LastPass customer until I wasn't.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 57 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

The company has long defined its values with the acronym “GRIT,” which used to stand for “Gratitude, Responsibility, Inclusion, and Transparency.” After May 4, it changed the acronym to stand for “Gratitude, Responsibility, Innovation, and Trust.”

It's not as bad as the headline seems. Transparency is still in the motto. The actual change is:

before

after

But still. Why change it at all? Why replace "inclusion" with "innovation"?

It smells like Tech Bro.

There's just no way to spin that positively, even giving them the benefit of the doubt, especially since they aren't rolling it back. Someone spent effort to make that values change, so its not an accident nor a "nothingburger".

[–] Padit@feddit.org 44 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Well, trust is literally the oposite of transparency. So i would call it quite bad, especially if you consider that right now i trust these guys with my credit card details, my taxID, all my passwords.

[–] gnufuu@infosec.pub 23 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Exactly. In cybersec, trust is someting you try to avoid or at least minimize. Trying to use it as a selling point is ridiculous.

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[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 51 points 2 weeks ago

“You either die the hero, or you live long enough to become the villain”

[–] scytale@piefed.zip 50 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Why does every good thing always have to go to shit. Sigh.

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 48 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

Nothing good ever lasts. Guess that's entropy for you.

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[–] nullPointer@programming.dev 47 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

hope this does not fuck up my vaultwarden hosting.

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[–] felixwhynot@lemmy.world 44 points 2 weeks ago

Ah shit, here we go again…

[–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 42 points 2 weeks ago (21 children)

If you're looking for alternatives and you don't care about automatic device syncing, I have been enjoying using keepassxc

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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 38 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Run.

ProtonPass is run by a non-profit if you have to move to another hosted solution.

Otherwise there's multiple self-hostable options, including plain file sync options.

Use this example as learning experience that the type of the firm you're buying a service from is very important as it changes whose interests it puts first, second and last.

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[–] resolute_clover@sh.itjust.works 38 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world 35 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Update: After publication, an employee on the Bitwarden subreddit said that “Always free” had been restored on its pricing page, calling it an “oversight” by the marketing team. The product page for Bitwarden’s personal password manager remains unchanged.

[–] iuseasahibtw@ani.social 55 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

They got community checked and backtracked hard... I have always endorsed bitwarden but that is becoming worrisome. :(

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[–] boelder@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago

Enshitification marches on.

[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I wonder how much the new choice of CEO was up to the founder versus the venture capital investors. I’m assuming the investors had the main input.

[–] kazerniel@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

And this is why every time a tech company raises venture capitalist funding, it's almost inevitably on the road to enshittification, as the ones holding the pursestrings only care about what profit they can extract from the company over the next few years.

It needs a conscious effort from companies that are small but successful to stay that way, to keep their size and business model sustainable, and their mission connected to the interests of their users. From the top of my head I know Obsidian does it this way (fully user-funded), but there are probably others too.

[–] iuseasahibtw@ani.social 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, it was fun while it lasted, lol.

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[–] NGC2346@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I feel like switching to self hosted vaultwarden was one of my best moves of the year

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[–] new_world_odor@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Ah for fuck's sake. Seems like every month I have to change something because some fucking company starts getting a taste for greed via data sucking. I'm goddamn sick of it.

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[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 25 points 2 weeks ago

Was good while it lasted. Thanks for getting me off LastPass. See ya

[–] mintiefresh@piefed.ca 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

ugh... This is worrying.

All good things come to an end at some point I guess.

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[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 24 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I guess it's time to move to vaultwarden sooner rather than later.... This wasn't supposed to be the weekend project, but fuck it; let's roll with it!

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