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Research Findings:

  • reCAPTCHA v2 is not effective in preventing bots and fraud, despite its intended purpose
  • reCAPTCHA v2 can be defeated by bots 70-100% of the time
  • reCAPTCHA v3, the latest version, is also vulnerable to attacks and has been beaten 97% of the time
  • reCAPTCHA interactions impose a significant cost on users, with an estimated 819 million hours of human time spent on reCAPTCHA over 13 years, which corresponds to at least $6.1 billion USD in wages
  • Google has potentially profited $888 billion from cookies [created by reCAPTCHA sessions] and $8.75–32.3 billion per each sale of their total labeled data set
  • Google should bear the cost of detecting bots, rather than shifting it to users

"The conclusion can be extended that the true purpose of reCAPTCHA v2 is a free image-labeling labor and tracking cookie farm for advertising and data profit masquerading as a security service," the paper declares.

In a statement provided to The Register after this story was filed, a Google spokesperson said: "reCAPTCHA user data is not used for any other purpose than to improve the reCAPTCHA service, which the terms of service make clear. Further, a majority of our user base have moved to reCAPTCHA v3, which improves fraud detection with invisible scoring. Even if a site were still on the previous generation of the product, reCAPTCHA v2 visual challenge images are all pre-labeled and user input plays no role in image labeling."

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 271 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

I kinda figured. It was annoying to do one, but then they wanted you to do two or three and that's absurd. Whenever it comes up now, I usually just close out.

[–] Bezier@suppo.fi 82 points 4 months ago (7 children)

they wanted you to do two or three and that's absurd

Yea how about 20

[–] LucidNightmare@lemm.ee 53 points 4 months ago (2 children)

VPN? Google will just go in a loop with these things, so I just stopped using Google completely.

[–] Bezier@suppo.fi 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

No. But it's also not like I get 20 constantly, it was just the worst I've seen. Usually it's 2 to 5, I think.

I assume they're just collecting data on how many are users willing to do.

[–] LucidNightmare@lemm.ee 20 points 4 months ago

One time I did five in a row, because I use VPNs for everything, and realized after the 5th time that it would have been easier to just use bing so I do that first now. Google has turned into my last last resort, which is quite funny, because that’s where Bing used to be. Lmao

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 10 points 4 months ago

Whenever I'm on a private window the captchas just keep on coming. Trying to reset your Steam password via the program will also trigger an infinite loop of captchas, you HAVE to use a browser.

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

if you have to do that many, you either have some privacy setting on or on a flagged ip given from a VPN

[–] Landsharkgun@midwest.social 31 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Well yah of course I do. Why the hell is that 'abnormal'?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago

Most people don't, most bots do. You look more like a bot, so you get extra challenges.

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

its abnormal to them because vpns are often also used by bad actors. your use is not abnormal but its a there are other people misusing it making it worse for everyone else.

[–] Landsharkgun@midwest.social 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wow, way to blame individuals who take basic precautions instead of the corporations who are blantly invading your privacy. Good job making the world a better place, bud.

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago

point where i blame the individuals, the blame is clearly on the bad actors (e.g bots)

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Or google knows you will out up with it and want the most interaction it can get from you.

[–] crank0271@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Google's just lonely 🥺👉👈

[–] iiGxC@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 months ago
[–] sramder@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

I tried to order some components on Digikey a few months ago and I’m still mentally scarred. Probably did a few hundred of those things over the course of 2 weeks.

[–] radivojevic@discuss.online 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That’s because you’re shady.

[–] Bezier@suppo.fi 25 points 4 months ago (2 children)

They knew I was committing crimes with my adblocker.

[–] msage@programming.dev 12 points 4 months ago

The worst kind - crimes against profit!

[–] radivojevic@discuss.online 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Elon musk wants to know what the government is going to do about you not viewing ads on Xitter

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

Not going to his shithole website.

[–] SpaceMan9000@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Had this when at uni, mostly due to the amount of requests coming from a single IP

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Cries in battlenet sign up process

[–] yum@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 4 months ago

The one reason I tried to create an account and never came back

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

STOP BEING SNEAKY MICHAEL

[–] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Some captchas have also just gotten obvious AI training. "Click on the living being in this image", "Select every image of the same object as in this example image". And the images you have to select look obviously AI generated.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Heh, I got one just the other day "Select the images containing structures built by people" lmao

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"click on all people not helping with the robot uprising"

[–] WildPalmTree@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Alas, I have but one up-vote. :~(

[–] aaaaace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 months ago

Those one answers incorrectly.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Im surprised that this is in the news right now. This has been acknowledged as fact for a decade or so.

[–] GhostTheToast@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Lots of lucky ones i guess

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I still don’t get this one even after being linked to it so many times 😌🤣

[–] Tja@programming.dev 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Someday you will, and you'll be one of the lucky 10.000 that day.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago
[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Things that are common knowledge for you is not common knowledge for everyone and vice versa.

Instead of making fun of people for not knowing things, you should take the opportunity to teach so that you can get these fun moments of discovery and learning.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

😮l made fun of people that did not know something?

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, I explained what the comic is trying to convey.

Just answering your question.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago
[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

At a certain point I did like 10 of them, and then ended up closing the page, cause it never let me in, all because I was on a vpn

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Funny thing is they stop asking if you do them really slowly. Almost as if to tell you, you‘re too inefficient to even be an unpaid intern or something. Anyway, if they annoy you, take your time.