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[–] leadore@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I can only hope that nothing ever happens to where I'd have to use Windows again. (been using only linux for over 10 years and the latest Windows I ever used was win 7 at work).

If that happened, the shock of all the last 10-15 years' accumulation of enshittification hitting me at once might give me a stroke. The boiling frogs of today have gotten used to their OS serving them ads and spying on them by now, but I wouldn't be able to deal with it.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I dual boot at work, which in practice means I have a Linux laptop with a Windows partition for occasional use.

It’s windows 10, not 11, and the machine has decent specs: 6c/12t, 32 GB ram, and an SSD. Windows feels legitimately clunky and slow to me when I use it, and I am not using some lightweight Linux distro meant to be blazing fast. I run Mint Cinnamon which is as mainstream and all-in-one as it gets. But it still feels like it was created to serve the user rather than third party business interests.

I have some desktop machines at home that run windows 10 as well, which I use pretty infrequently. One of my winter projects is going to be fixing that. The OS part anyway.

[–] Teppichbrand@feddit.org 5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Exactly the same setup and experience here. Work forces me to use an inferior application in windows instead of a more powerful option in Linux and it boils my blood.

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

I bet they're gonna have to do what car dealerships do.... Yeah bring your old iPad for trade in!... Okay I don't see my trade in discount though...it's right there! Look in the small font, it's $5.56 we compared against Kelly's cousin's purple book of laptops.

[–] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yes. Go buy a new computer.

Then give me your old computer so I can put linux on it and distribute it for free to students and immigrants.

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I like how almost everything we do now is in response to things going to shit.

Lemmy - Reddit went to shit

Linux (Desktop, anyway) - Windows went to shit

Piracy - Distribution and pricing went to shit

Jellyfin - Plex went to shit

Emulation - Nintendo, mostly...

Matrix - Just in case Signal tries anything... switchblade

[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago

Monopoly was originally the Landlord's Game and was designed to teach children the dangers of unchecked monopolies and growth in the concentration of wealth.

Software and by extension, software companies are subject to those same Iron Laws of Oligarchy.

Given enough time, everything turns to shit, and it's up to younger, healthy, energized people to fight back the power creep.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 day ago

Please don't give your computers to Elon musk he doesn't need them.

[–] M33@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 day ago

They’ve been doing that with intel for ages, one build a slower OS the other a faster processor.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 140 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Those aren't prompts. Those are ads. Call a spade a spade. "Microsoft tries to convince Windows 10 users to buy a new PC with full-screen ads"

[–] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I'm just a "normal person" lol but I have a 8 year old MacBook Air running I can't remember what version. I've never been forced to upgrade. Does everything I need it to. I told Microsoft to fuck themselves in 1998. Now at work, I've been stuck with PC's but that's on the company's dime, never mine.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

If your Air hadn't reached it yet, eventually it'll reach EOS and you'll stop receiving software/OS updates from Apple. While this won't force you to upgrade hardware, it does add significant risk to your online time, since vulnerabilities will go unpatched. But, again, an important difference, which you shrewdly point out, you're not forced or coerced to upgrade.

Edit: autocorrect

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fortunately, Firefox still supports old Macs. I have a running 2011 MacBook and 2008 iMac that are both still used for 3D printing and the other for an old local version of accounting software and email respectively.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

While true, the vulnerabilities I'm referring to are those in the OS itself. But if they're not connected, you should be ok. All I'm saying with this, is be super careful. Some of those vulnerabilities are zero click.

Edit: autocorrect that killed my grammar.

[–] Teknikal@eviltoast.org 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Some group who hates Microsoft should just start doing their own unofficial security updates for 10 and slowly turn it into a Linux distro

[–] fishbone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"We and our 855 partners blah blah blah."

Odd that theverge decided to post this article. Not too stoked about 850 companies asking for my data in order to see an article about predatory business practices.

[–] gramie@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

Even more irritating is when they give you the option to opt out, but you have to select every company individually. So you either give up on the article or let them steal your life.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago
[–] takeheart@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Ah yes, there isn't even an option to permanently disable this popup, only remind me later. When the operating system is the nag ware. `

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Those "remind me later" options should be illegal

Then again, just install Linux already and you don't ever have to deal with any of this shit.

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[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Got that the other day on my gaming computer. Very irritating.

Especially since I bought the computer in 2021 specifically to run the virtual cycling program Zwift. I'm not replacing it just to placate Microsoft. It's more than powerful enough to run Zwift and will be for years. I'm hoping the options for using Zwift on Linux pan out.

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It looks like the authors themselves are also interested!

https://zwiftinsider.com/zwift-on-linux/

This is interesting, I might give the application a try myself

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Having moved fully to Linux some months ago, I look at this kind of thing both with with a feeling of smug satisfaction and with cold chills of somebody who only now starts to fully realise just how massive, heavy and fast the incoming train they just dodged is.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 13 points 2 days ago

It's really wild looking back at what we considered acceptable in the Win 7 era versus now.

[–] dipcart@lemmy.world 77 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I use Linux at home but my work computer uses windows. Work just bought me a new laptop with windows 11 pre-installed and I got ads to upgrade to a new "AI capable computer" on the login screen. This computer is maybe 3 months old and there are already ads telling me I need to get a new one.

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[–] MaxPow3r11@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe it is time for a new LINUX PC.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago

Or a new Linux install on your existing PC.

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

People can’t afford groceries and Microsoft is over here saying this. So out of touch with reality.

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[–] trespasser69@lemmy.world 107 points 3 days ago (15 children)

Micro$oft doesn't understand that these full-screen new Win11 PCs are actually Linux ads!

[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world 105 points 3 days ago (8 children)

I'm praising Valve right now for all the work they've put into Proton.

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 45 points 3 days ago (3 children)

95% of my games work on Linux. Quite a few windows specific programs too. Praise proton and the wine team!

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[–] Lippy@fedia.io 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That kinda did the trick for me since my old PC was starting to struggle with some tasks, so I went and built a new PC recently.

Joke's on Microsoft though, I installed Arch Linux on it instead. It's so much less work to maintain compared to Windows these days.

A relative of mine had also got fed up with the Windows BS and was interested in what I was running, so I got her machine dual booted with Debian now to try it out. She hasn't looked back either, so that to me proves that Linux is ready for non-techies.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (9 children)

My GF is not technical and had an old, old laptop that barely ran, so I gave her an Ubuntu USB drive and helped her boot from it, but she did the install all on her own. She even fixed a printer driver issue by doing some research and installing an updated driver.

But that just goes to show that Linux isn't exactly hard if you know how to read.

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[–] icogniito@lemmy.zip 44 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I say this in a lot of threads lately but, here I go again:

I’m so glad I swapped to linux

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[–] M600@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I still can't believe that so many PCs are getting cut off from software updates. Its going to be a huge security issue. There will suddenly be millions of unsecured computers being actively used. I can imagine that this will be allowed to happen.

I think Microsoft is doing this because they want to make the ultimate spy network with copilot or what ever they are calling it now. I really need to figure out how to get a single work app to work on Linux reliably. I use it for like 99% of my work, so a virtual machine is kind of useless. I honestly think I will need to wait for a native version of the app to be developed and who knows if that will happen.

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