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[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 hours ago

5G hadn't been invented yet. They had nothing to worry about back then.

/s

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 45 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

"We're not gonna make it, are we? Humans I mean" -John Connor- Terminator 2

[–] hangman@lemm.ee 34 points 15 hours ago

“It’s in your nature to destroy yourselves”

-the terminator

[–] orbitz@lemmy.ca 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I could feel my dread go as I heard that lines over the years, as a young teen? Of course we will we always have, we endure. As a middle aged adult? I'm not so sure we aren't going to shove ourselves back to the cave man era and not enough people will listen to anyone with survival knowledge for the species to survive.

Then I think about how many species that must have and will happen to in this vast universe, so we'll probably be an average result heh in the grand scheme of things that is.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 4 points 12 hours ago

Okay, so we're roughly in the middle...Are we on the left or the right of Fermi's bell curve?

[–] arc@lemm.ee 41 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

RFK jr is going to kill and cripple a lot more kids if he gets the chance to. He'll make pretend polio / measles is eradicated and then somebody will get on a plane where there are cases, and it will spread amongst the unvaxxed and kids will die. When this happens he should be charged with negligent homicide but I doubt that will happen.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago

But he don't care, because:

  • It mostly kills poor people
  • He is vaccinated
  • His kids are vaccinated
  • He couldn't give any less fucks about people if you paid him for it. And he is being paid to not give a fuck about people's lives.
[–] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 93 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

In 1955... Most people personally knew someone aflicted with polio. They knew how bad it was

[–] SOB_Van_Owen@lemm.ee 41 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

In Appalachia, it was unlikely to not know someone on a vent or dead from Covid, yet...

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 29 points 16 hours ago (12 children)

Fox News tells you not to believe your eyes, and conservatives trust Fox News more than their own eyes.

[–] hume_lemmy@lemmy.ca 19 points 16 hours ago

Their final, most essential command.

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[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 10 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I knew three people who died from COVID and another after they recovered from COVID, unfortunately unless it's their direct family they would just assume 'theyre just making it all out to be covid'

I assume most people would blame social media for this, but here's my c/unpopularopinions take, it's inevitable with a profit oriented news platform, where they try to scaremonger in both 'we are all going to die' and 'government is putting chips in our bloodstream' directions

In other nations, unless a blunder by government policy, they werent as affected by the anti vaccine shenanigans, even though they were as affected by social media and such

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

And then there's my ex who after COVID took nearly 9 months (!) to get normal use of their lung again. Fuck people who go all "COVID is bullshit".

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago

Dude my grandmother died of Covid in August pf 2020, and yet my father and his sister who is a nurse and gave her the dease arge to this day weather covid is bullshit or not. AT HER funeral they argued about mask mandates. Maga brains will watch millions die from covid, and polio and still call it fake news.

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[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 102 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (10 children)

Maybe we're going about this the wrong way. We know what kind of country we live in, a nation of proud, almost patriotic willful ignorance. By design. An laborer ignorant to who is fucking them is a dependable laborer, after all.

So in the spirit of playing to the audience we have, have we tried rebranding the "vaccines" as, and I'm just spitballing here, Freedom Blessings, Robert E Lee Juice, The Joe Rogan Vein Experience, or the Prove You Hate Commies Test?

[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 39 points 19 hours ago (6 children)

I had a thought along the same lines. I was thinking we should coin the term "immunition," and tell people it was a way to arm your immune system to defend itself. It's not even all that misleading.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Get the NRA (the New Resistance Augmentation) into supporting immunition imports!

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[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 13 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

I think social media algorithms have fried people's brains. Imagine we'd ban them, go back to content being kinda diverse and random, without adversaries able to game the system and push massive swaths of propaganda to people. The fact alone that most youths get their news from freaking TicTok of all places...

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Why would anybody bad them, >50% in the US just voted to expand them massively and apply them ~everything. Oh and that money for the masses sucks versus money for grifters only, so I for one welcome Freedom Coin 2025 which rugpulls about 2 weeks after introduction.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

You know your local news network has a TikTok right? There’s nothing wrong with news from social media. The problem is that media is unregulated and people are allowed to lie and pass off that information factual.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You know your local news network has a TikTok right?

That's not what people watch though. People get their news from "influencers", often time those with far right alignments, or straight from fascist parties who are the ones with the most reach on TicTok.

The problem is that media is unregulated and people are allowed to lie and pass off that information factual.

That's literally what the free press is, and a fundamental pillar of a free and democratic society. Regulated media is censored media, and exactly what fascists want. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_the_press

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Being “press” does not give you blanket protection from lies. Alex Jones just lost his company because he lied about Sandy Hook victims.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

press

Alex Jones

Which one is it now?!

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[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 90 points 22 hours ago (10 children)

Quite the difference from how half the US population reacted to a Covid vaccine. The power of political propaganda and social media conspiracy theories.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 59 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

And how those same people are cheering about Captain Brainworm's intentions to discontinue the polio vaccine.

Behold the power of mass lead poisoning. We truly live in the most stupid timeline.

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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 136 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I used to think one of the biggest reasons there's so many antivaxx people is that, because they're so effective, people no longer have the fear of seeing their children in an iron lung, struggling to breathe. Then Covid respirators happened and antivaxx fucks somehow got worse

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 50 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Most people on this planet are idiots.

[–] excral@feddit.org 27 points 22 hours ago

The average person is quite stupid and about half the people are even stupider (sic)

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[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 40 points 22 hours ago (8 children)

It's also why Trump is president-elect currently. People are stupid and are forgetting just how bad things can be.

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 101 points 1 day ago (14 children)

NGL, I was choked up in my car when I was lined up for my very first COVID jab.

Honestly thought it was over, and the events since have informed much of my cynicism about our species.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 12 hours ago

Choked up? Like a rando strangled you?

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[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 17 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Oh how humanity hath fallen

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[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 288 points 1 day ago (53 children)

It is amazing to me how short our memories are as a species. There are people who are still in congress who had polio. There are an estimated 300,000 people still alive in the US who survived polio. Even with that, the nominated head of Health and Human Services wants to do away with the polio vaccine.

I don't know what the problem is. Is it a lack of empathy? Is it willingness to swallow the bait surrounding conspiracy theories? Is it just a lack of education? How did we get to the point where it is even remotely okay for the future head of Heath and Human Services to be against the polio vaccine?

If being pro-polio isn't disqualifying for being the head of HHS, and if he gets confirmed, the U.S. will have very clearly shown that it is in rapid decline. It will have shown that the government is corrupt to its core and is irredeemable.

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