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[–] dsilverz@thelemmy.club 2 points 13 minutes ago* (last edited 5 minutes ago)

That's good, really good news, to see that HDDs are still being manufactured and being thought of. Because I'm having a serious problem trying to find a new 2.5" HDD for my old laptop here in Brazil. I can quickly find SSDs across the Brazilian online marketplaces, and they're not much expensive, but I'm intending on purchasing a mechanical one because SSDs won't hold data for much longer compared to HDDs, but there are so few HDD for sale, and those I could find aren't brand-new.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 4 points 36 minutes ago* (last edited 34 minutes ago)

Everybody taking shit about Seagate here. Meanwhile I've never had a hard drive die on me. Eventually the capacity just became too little to keep around and I got bigger ones.

Oldest I'm using right now is a decade old, Seagate. Actually, all the HDDs are Seagate. The SSDs are Samsung. Granted, my OS is on an SSD, as well as my most used things, so the HDDs don't actually get hit all that much.

[–] dragonlobster@programming.dev 3 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

These things are unreliable, I had 3 seagate HDDs in a row fail on me. Never had an issue with SSDs and never looked back.

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago

Seagate in general are unreliable in my own anecdotal experience. Every Seagate I've owned has died in less than five years. I couldn't give you an estimate on the average failure age of my WD drives because it never happened before they were retired due to obsolescence. It was over a decade regularly though.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

well until you need capacity why not use an SSD. It's basically mandatory for the operating system drive too

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, cool and all, but call me when sata or m2 ssds are 10TB for $250, then we'll talk.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago

Not sure whether we'll arrive there the tech is definitely entering the taper-out phase of the sigmoid. Capacity might very well still become cheaper, also 3x cheaper, but don't, in any way, expect them to simultaneously keep up with write performance that ship has long since sailed. The more bits they're trying to squeeze into a single cell the slower it's going to get and the price per cell isn't going to change much, any more, as silicon has hit a price wall, it's been a while since the newest, smallest node was also the cheapest.

OTOH how often do you write a terabyte in one go at full tilt.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Lmao the HDD in the first machine I built in the mid 90s was 1.2GB

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Back then that was very impressive!

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 2 points 32 minutes ago

Yup. My grandpa had 10 MB in his DOS machine back then.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

My dad had a 286 with a 40MB hard drive in it. When it spun up it sounded like a plane taking off. A few years later he had a 486 and got a 2gb Seagate hard drive. It was an unimaginable amount of space at the time.

The computer industry in the 90s (and presumably the 80s, I just don't remember it) we're wild. Hardware would be completely obsolete every other year.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 points 3 hours ago

It really was doubling in speed about every 18 months.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

My 286er had 2MB RAM and no hard drive, just two 5.25" floppy drives. One to boot the OS from, the other for storage and software.

I upgrade it to 4 MB RAM and bought a 20 MB hard drive, moved EVERY piece of software I had onto it, and it was like 20% full. I sincerely thought that should last forever.

Today I casually send my wife a 10 sec video from the supermarket to choose which yoghurt she wants and that takes up about 25 MB.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I had 128KB of RAM and I loaded my games from tape. And most of those only used 48KB of it.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 2 points 1 hour ago

Yeah we still had an old 8086 with tape drive and all from my dad's university times around, but I never acutely used that one.

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 12 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 43 minutes ago) (1 children)

Avoid these like the plague. I made the mistake of buying 2 16 TB Exos drives a couple years ago and have had to RMA them 3 times already.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (3 children)

I stopped buying seagates when I had 4 of their 2TB barracuda drives die within 6 months... constantly was RMAing them. Finally got pissed and sold them and bought WD reds, still got 2 of the reds in my Nas Playing hot backups with nearly 8 years of power time.

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 2 points 27 minutes ago* (last edited 26 minutes ago)

They seem to be real hit or miss. I also have 2 6TB barracudas that have 70,000 power on hours (8 yrs) that are still going fine.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I recently had to send back a Barracuda drive as well. I'm seeing if the Ironwolf drive fares any better.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

I have heard good things about their ironwolf drives, but that's a enterprise solution drive, so hopefully it's worth it

[–] kungen@feddit.nu 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I have several WDs with almost 15 years of power on time, not a single failure. Whereas my work bought a bunch of Seagates and our cluster was basically halved after less than 2 years. I have no idea how Seagate can suck so much.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

About 10 years ago now, at a past employer, had a NAS setup that housed a bunch of medical data....all seagate drives. During my xmas PTO...I was lead on DR...yea fuckers all started failing one after another. Took out 14 drives before the storage team said fuck this pulled it offline and had a new NAS brought in from EMC, was a fun xmas restoring all that shit. Seagate used to be my go to, but it seems like every single interaction I have with them ends in disaster.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

cool never will buy another seagate ever though.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

Same but western digital, 13gb that failed and lost all my data 3 time and 3rd time was outside the warranty! I had paid 500$, the most expensive thing I had ever bought until tgat day.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 121 points 13 hours ago (6 children)

It never ceases to amaze me how far we can still take a piece of technology that was invented in the 50s.

That's like developing punch cards to the point where the holes are microscopic and can also store terabytes of data. It's almost Steampunk-y.

That's how most technology is:

  • combustion engines - early 1900s, earlier if you count steam engines
  • missiles - 13th century China, gunpowder was much earlier
  • wind energy - windmills appeared in the 9th century, potentially as early as the 4th

Almost everything we have today is due to incremental improvements from something much older.

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[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 48 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

30/32 = 0.938

That’s less than a single terabyte. I have a microSD card bigger than that!

;)

[–] clashorcrashman@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 hours ago

Can't even put it into simplest form.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Now now, no self-shaming about the size of your card. It's how you use it!

Some IOT perverts are into microSD

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