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[–] JoshuaBrusque@lemmy.world 187 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's almost like they don't know what they're doing.

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 102 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Unless it’s just plain old stock market manipulation with a twist. Always follow the money.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nah. It's not almost like that. Nope. It's exactly that.

This is weaponized incompetence and stupidity.

[–] Snowstorm@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I split this evolving situation according to different scenarios and try to weight their relative probability. What’s the motive, where’s the gain?

A) 80% Some variation of pure incompetence where they tried some shit with whatever aim and weren’t prepared for the hard pushback they got served quickly and decisively. Current events are capitulation, at least for a moment.

B) 15% We are in a Russia-like scenario where this administration needs to govern from fear : population fear deportation and can’t elect another government and fear from the companies that he can crash anything at will without remorse : pay regularly to avoid the destruction of your business model. Mafia protection tax will be lucrative for the few people at the very top.

C) 5% Wider destruction of society with genocide and a new flavour of slavery. Luckily this one is difficult and stoping at a mid point, pivoting to B, is easier. Achieving stability in a “network city” scenario doesn’t seems plausible to me : one small example: try to manufacture stuff to give your ruler class quality healthcare without any scale because war killed so much people… modern stuff is outrageously complicated.

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[–] grte@lemmy.ca 91 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can pause the tariffs but you can't pause the uncertainty you've introduced into the system, Don.

[–] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 week ago

Especially when he has basically admitted that it is stock market manipulation. Everyone knows the tariffs will return or potentially even something stupider.

[–] Bonus@lemm.ee 82 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Somebody got a call from Tim Apple. So much for the clamor to make iPhones in the US. More American jobs vaporized, just like that.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Building iPhones in the US was never going to happen, it would double or triple the price if we did it here.

[–] MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's not about the price. There just isn't enough capacity and workers to build that many.

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[–] errer@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Makes this article look even stupider than when it was first written

[–] IllNess@infosec.pub 10 points 1 week ago

Why? People probably panic upgraded.

The Trump tariffs are doing as intended, manipulating the market.

[–] Bonus@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago

Pretty sick of these kinds of doomsdayers rolling over and spreading panic instead of focusing on calling out all the bullshit. Not that that's even an effective approach. What needs to be repeated over and over is the obvious failures in simple enough terms they can become mantras, slogans, ways of beating the propagandists at their own game. We're more creative and smarter than them yet we let ourselves lose the propaganda war. Well, not us per se, but legacy media and feckless Democrats.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't think the general populace was particularly interested in buying 5000 dollar US made smartphones lmao

[–] Bonus@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

Nope. Just ludicrous propositions to terrorize everyone on the planet.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Lol. Conservatives don't care. Libs fucking OWNED. We got fucking OWNED, y'all.

Do you feel it? Does it fucking hurt to be owned by poor people who will now be poorer with less options?

They fucking showed us. And themselves. Fuck yeah!!!

Ignorance is strength!!!

[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 70 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Now this loophole will make sure everything is a cell phone or computer. Every toy will suddenly have gps a gig of ram and a touch screen. Micromachines are going to be lit.

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Even potato chips will identify as micro chips.

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[–] DrCake@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What a pussy. Got a call from Tim Apple and caved immediately.

I feel like the uncertainty is worse for business than the actual tarries at this point

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Tim apple sms'd him a single picture.

Course, the picture was the back of his neck in a sniper scope.

Sometimes pictures speak louder than words.

And some pictures transcend language and random rants of gibberish.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Folding like a cheap suit after making duuuuumbfuck decisions.

A true American hero.

The conservative savior.

A cult.

It's a cult.

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

At least he made all his billionaire backers a lot of extra money from all of this.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Before Trump announced it publicly. Martha Stewart was jailed for less.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Generally convictions are less severe for women though, so that doesn't explain it...

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[–] Snowstorm@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago

How can we price the stock correctly if we don’t know how much of the profit margin needs to be cut to account for bribes? If Apple shouldered the bribe on its own is this a disadvantage when their competitors gets tariff relief for free? Do they pay every 3 months or every year? Maybe we learn the bribe price on the quarterly conference call? Apple has some kind of leverage against the US government and this isn’t an expense?

I have more questions than a three years old!

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

after all his cronies got on TV talking about making iphones in the US ... fucking lol.

[–] ChristmasApe@discuss.online 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Come on China, send a message and slap export duties on them until Trump buckles again.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just outright embargo the US, period.

[–] ChristmasApe@discuss.online 6 points 1 week ago

I like how you think.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

And somehow american gagging only made the Chinese dick grow in its mouth.

Art of the fellatio.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh, so the two largest line items among Chinese imports.

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[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

I'm starting to think this Trump guy doesn't know what he's doing. /s

[–] SGforce@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago

Today, sure.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago

If electronics fall out of favor, it will be harder to profile and track us

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago

US/Trump blinking continues. If electronics jobs were both desirable and already on a partial progress groove, then surely apparel/toys tariffs are next to be removed, and then only US military electronics will be 145% tariffed, if not blacklisted by China.

Trade deficit with China just substantially increased. US energy, ag, big ticket industrial exports just went to 0.

Is switch 2 a computer?

[–] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] lorski@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 week ago

Not any more!! you cannot trust a word that comes out of the shit gibbons mouth hole.

[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

tim cook wrote a check to one of trump businesses, quite probably

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

You mean Americans are spared from tax on smartphones and computers.

[–] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)
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[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago

Are they just kind of saying things at this point?

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

he has to poke all of these holes in his threats, and this tells me he's not bluffing. the end goal is not negotiation, but a huge tariff wall.

I no longer have a retirement plan

[–] Alenalda@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

you dont want to keep your propaganda spreading technologies unaffordable

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