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The Trump administration’s ongoing efforts to combine access to the sensitive and personal information of Americans into a single searchable system with the help of shady companies should terrify us – and should inspire us to fight back.

While couched in the benign language of eliminating government “data silos,” this plan runs roughshod over your privacy and security. It’s a throwback to the rightly mocked “Total Information Awareness” plans of the early 2000s that were, at least publicly, stopped after massive outcry from the public and from key members of Congress.

Under this order, ICE is trying to get access to the IRS and Medicaid records of millions of people, and is demanding data from local police. The administration is also making grabs for food stamp data from California and demanding voter registration data from at least nine states.

Much of the plan seems to rely on the data management firm Palantir, formerly based in Palo Alto. It’s telling that the Trump administration would entrust such a sensitive task to a company that has a shaky-at-best record on privacy and human rights.

Bad ideas for spending your taxpayer money never go away – they just hide for a few years and hope no one remembers. But we do. In the early 2000s, when the stated rationale was finding terrorists, the government proposed creating a single all-knowing interface into multiple databases and systems containing information about millions of people. Yet that plan was rightly abandoned after less than three years and millions of wasted taxpayer dollars, because of both privacy concerns and practical problems.

It certainly seems the Trump administration’s intention is to try once again to create a single, all-knowing way to access and use the personal information about everyone in America. Today, of course, the stated focus is on finding violent illegal immigrants and the plan initially only involves data about you held by the government, but the dystopian risks are the same.

Over fifty years ago, after the scandals surrounding Nixon’s “enemies list,” Watergate, and COINTELPRO, in which a President bent on staying in power misused government information to target his political enemies, Congress enacted laws to protect our data privacy. Those laws ensure that data about you collected for one purpose by the government can’t be misused for other purposes or disclosed to other government officials with an actual need. Also, they require the government to carefully secure the data it collects. While not perfect, these laws have served the twin goals of protecting our privacy and data security for many years.

Now the Trump regime is basically ignoring them, and this Congress is doing nothing to stand up for the laws it passed to protect us.

But many of us are pushing back. At the Electronic Frontier Foundation, where I’m executive director, we have sued over DOGE agents grabbing personal data from the U.S. Office of Personnel Management, filed an amicus brief in a suit challenging ICE’s grab for taxpayer data, and co-authored another amicus brief challenging ICE’s grab for Medicaid data. We’re not done and we’re not alone.

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[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

ya and 'bil balls' and his other inexperienced friends have no idea what they are doing so you just know nothing about it is secure.

Foreign hackers will have access to all this information, I guarantee it.

[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was told if I voted for a repeat of Genocide Joe's team then we would get genocide or something. This is much better!

[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yep. Those genocide protestors sure showed us, didn’t they?

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I respect the protests. Bring on more protests. It's the whole not voting thing that I do no respect.

[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Exactly. Protesting is an effective way to get your voice heard. But those that chose to withhold their vote only served to cut off the noses of others to spite an issue they know little about.

SO many people are being hurt by their ignorant and selfish decision.

[–] SoloCritical@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] toad31@lemmy.cif.su 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

More like "both sides don't care about the working class."

The lesser evil is still evil.

[–] SoloCritical@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

“sent on iPhone”

[–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 17 hours ago

"We will build one concentration camp less than the Republicans!"

Signed, Democrats.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 15 points 1 day ago (7 children)

"...Much of the plan relies on Palantir"

Owned by Sociopathic Oligarchs Peter Theil, who holds Vance's leash, and paid Trump to put him in the VP slot, and believes that infusions of the blood of young men will help him live to be 150 (not kidding).

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[–] EldenLord@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Tolkien is rotating in his grave at this point with what is happening with his word Palantir. The USA Government is currently becoming a worse villain than Sauron and all of Mordor

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The USA is turning into both shitholes, CCP run China and Vlad's Russia.

[–] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 days ago

We're a cultural melting pot!

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Hmm, I feel like there's something those 3 leaderships have in common...

[–] heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This combined with AI facial recognition, the US will be following China's example.

The only difference is that their database will be hacked by other countries.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Under this admin, you just already know the thing is going to be a horrible hodgepodge mess of code generated by Grok or ChatGPT and put together as cheaply and quickly as possible.

[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

China's surveillance is beginning to look mild in comparison.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 days ago

Of course. Funnel all that info to Peter fucking Thiel's Palantir surveillance company that also has contracts with international law enforcement.

There couldn't possibly be any problems with funnelling every bit of panopticon into a single billionaire super lobbiest's hands. Especially one that has openly stated that he doesn't believe in the continuation of the human race. Who is the closest thing to a real life vampire, regularly getting blood transfusions from healthy young "blood boys" in a hare brained attempt to prolong his own life at all costs.

I find it a massive failure of society as a whole that this fucking charlatan wasn't laughed out of society in the 2010s when he was doing interviews about the "blood boy" bullshit and all the other crackpot shit he was doing to prolong his life. Absolute fucking ghoul. The people in power value money more than sense.

In Turkey, we have a portal called e-Devlet (e-Government) that is used for handling all government services. It stores every citizen's data, including medical records, bank account information, and almost any type of personal data you can imagine. Unfortunately, this data has been leaked several times and continues to leak. These breaches result in highly convincing scams, doxxing, and other serious issues.

Such sensitive information should not be centralized under a single portal. We are already suffering from this situation in Turkey, but if a similar large-scale data leak were to happen in the US, the consequences would have a massive global impact.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Start telling people that trump is building a national database of gun owners.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They'll justify it somehow. Or blame the democrats somehow.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago

Obama did it first.

[–] NoodlePoint@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Fucking bastard is the convergence of all evil going on in the last few years. Unless one morning they wake up to their neighborhoods patrolled by "militia" in their brodozers, what's gonna take people to shock them up into outrage, and it's not just the minorities or the progressives?

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[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I wonder how we can be evil today?

-Trump administration

I wonder if us asenting this would demonstrate our willingness to suck Trump's cock.

-Republicans in Congress

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 93 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Holy fuck. All of that will be stolen in 3 seconds and the minute it launches Russia will be granted special access. It was nice knowing ya'll. Not really but. Yeah.

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[–] ShittDickk@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They'll contract musk to do it and call it X Internal Communications or XIC for short, and no one will be able to do trade or business without it.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Revelation 13:16-17

You’d think the crowd that avoided barcodes at grocery stores and had meltdowns over “microchips” supposedly in the COVID vaccine would be foaming over this administration.

[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As I keep telling people, they're not upset about it because their media aren't telling them about things like this, at least not in the same terms.

[–] TomArrr@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's all in a database that can only be accessed with lefty-outer-joins

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[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 73 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The libertarian "don't tread on me" wing of the Republican party is hilariously quiet.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 48 points 2 days ago

That's because their motto is "Tread on me harder, daddy" since 2016.

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[–] XenGi@feddit.org 50 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There are reasons why it is illegal for the german state to have a central database of all it's citizens. Guess what the US will do with such a thing when they have it..

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[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

PLEASE check out any privacy community on Lemmy, PrivacyGuides.org, or ugh....even /r/Privacy

Saying "I have nothing to hide" does nothing but empower the surveillance state. You are living in a surveillance state and advertising tracking data is how you are tracked.

privacy@lemmy.world privacy@lemmy.ml privacy@lemmy.ca privacy@lemmy.ca

[–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The Trump administration’s ongoing efforts to combine access to the sensitive and personal information of Americans into a single searchable system with the help of shady companies should terrify us – and should inspire us to fight back.

We should indeed fight back against the governments and corporations that for decades have been doing this shit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010s_global_surveillance_disclosures

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The party that used to flip their shit at the very idea of a federal database.

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[–] 4grams@awful.systems 42 points 2 days ago (2 children)

My relatives who’ve been screaming about mark of the beast and shit for years sure confuse the hell Out of me when they voice support for this while wearing their maga hats.

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Look on the bright side: this way, you don't have to worry about data breach notification letters from all sorts of different companies or agencies since they'll all be coming from the same source. Really saves on letterhead.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

Release the Trump/Epstein files

[–] rozodru@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

nice of them to put everything in one place for easier access for the ruskies.

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