Technology

I use Win11 on my main computer for work and school reasons. I need maximum compatibility and reliability and it has met those goals. Back in the day, I used to use Linux on my old laptops and I dual-booted it on my main PC. It has been awesome seeing how far it has come and I would like to get back into it some day.

That being said, a huge barrier for Linux and prospective new users is the community. The Linux community is highly combative and toxic and it absolutely sours what should (and could!) be a great experience. Almost every interaction I had while troubleshooting had some level of condescending attitude or outright hostility and there were numerous times I was directly insulted for asking for help - the most recent being a couple years ago when I was trying out a distro and had sound driver issues.

Microsoft was successful in convincing me to upgrade to Mint however.

$10 says a future win10 update includes a killswitch. If it hasn't already

That is such a dumb clickbait title made to be fueled by emotions.

Who are those folks that can't be convinced? Because it sure as hell aren't the businesses who are moving all their Windows 10 PCs over to Windows 11.

Do they mean the consumer users? The ones who would still be on Windows XP if it weren't for Microsoft forcing their updates? Who only update when they get a new computer and postpone every update because they don't care about being on an insecure OS?

The ones who could be convinced already are on Windows 11. The rest Microsoft doesn't care about.

Switched to PopOS on my desktop and Mint on the ancient laptop my gf had laying around. No real complaints. Games run fine. Browser runs fine. I had some trouble getting mint installed on the old laptop, but the internet had a solution.

I think the install process is kind of daunting for many users, but once it's going I think the average user won't have any problems. Windows, by contrast, is kind of aggressive with its "GOING TO UPDATE NOW" and "don't you want to use one drive???"

Have the not learned anything? In 30 years of windows releases???

To get customers to upgrade, they have to release Windows 12. We only upgrade every other major version, because every other major version is terrible. Including W11.

Hahahahah. "Upgrade."

Help! Our unsustainable behavior of screwing over customers in the name of quarterly profits has finally caught up to us! Turns out there are long term consequences of our behavior, and now Linux can truly go toe-to-toe with Windows on a home desktop!

Microsoft's new OS has never been a concern of mine. I still have a windows XP, Vista, and windows 7 PC's. They all work fine but zero security updates of course. You don't need to upgrade your OS and most people will simply just keep windows 10 instead up buying a new computer.

I'm just going to setup dual boot with linux since i have some modding and custom software that only works on windows.

I just can't be fucked. I have win10 on my laptop that I boot once a month to run some windows programs but other then that I don't care about it. The only reason I see myself upgrading is to maybe know how to help my relatives with their windows 11 problems.

I got Windows 11 just because my work pc was Win 11. I learned where everything got moved. I use Bazzite Linux at home now. Loving it. Learned a lot and I'm still learning. Now I need to learn how to overwrite Windows 11 with an older version without fudging my GRUB (again, I really don't like having to fix that thing)

What bothers me is that I'm getting all this "upgrade to windows 11" crap from other companies, like my antivirus. I get that eset reason to tell me about possible security risks to my computer, but I'd prefer if they give me options for addressing it that don't involve dealing with a new OS, especially the win 11 dumpster fire.

Looking at it from a perspective other than "Windows shit, use Linux", MS' biggest issue here is that the vast majority have no compelling reason to upgrade. Currently.

To the average punter, W11 offers nothing that W10 doesn't already have. There's no new technologies that they care about, no new tentpole software that they're dying to try. Nothing. It has copilot running rampant through it, but most people don't know what that is or don't give a shit.

Give Apple their due, when they announce an OS update, they focus hard on the ways it improves over the current offering. Ways it can interact with your other devices, for example. Or even just a whole new design.

But MS advertise nothing beyond "This is new, come get it!", then wonder why no one cares.

I'm upgrading to Debian 13 instead, since 13 is bigger number than 11 so obviously it's better

For anyone that refuses to downgrade win10 to win11 and still wants to be secure running windows, 0Patch will cover your computer for 25eur/computer/year.

I've never used them, but a security researcher I follow regularly promoted them since they've been doing this for systems for a good while (I think win7 was the first one they did) and are able to apply their micropatches in memory.

Definitely worth a look if you don't want to upgrade to Linux while not downgrading to win11.

They're not trying to get me to upgrade my OS, they're trying to get me to buy a whole new fucking system for no good reason. Every last one of them can die in a fire.

And that's before we consider that Windows 11 is actually a downgrade.

What?! Are they not emphasizing that the start menu has moved from the left of the screen to the middle of the screen? Really seems like that alone should hook people.