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That's really a shame. Deus Ex deserves a full ground up remake.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wrapped plastic - not fantastic.

Everything's got that wet toy sheen. Wow, so realistic. Much specular.

[–] Binturong@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

everybody knows shiny = real.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

holy shit that looks bad.

If you have deus ex through steam, you can also get revision through steam and revision looks pretty good in my opinion.

[–] tio_bira@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago

It goes from early PS2 graphics to mid PS2 graphics

[–] Binturong@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I bet there's modpacks out there that make the game look 100 times better than this remaster.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 4 points 23 hours ago

One of them is even linked in the article lol

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 66 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I’m honestly quite tired of remasters. Why can’t we see some new original games?

The original Deus Ex is this bizarre mixture of jank, camp, and sheer brilliance. So much of what made the game amazing was unintentional and contingent with the era. A remaster is never going to be able to recapture that lightning in a bottle. It’s always going to be soulless.

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

TBH I am happy they're remastering some older games. I missed out on a lot of stuff because I was doing other things when a lot of highly regarded games came out (sold my PS1 to buy crack). So I've recently got a steam deck and played bioshock - really enjoyed it - and system shock is in my queue. I'm not sure I'd have been so keen to try them if they'd had the original graphics, that shit looks so dated now. But yeah, maybe they're taking the remaster thing a bit too far.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The original Deus Ex is perfectly playable today as long as you follow a guide to get it patched up and configured for a modern system. Plus it runs at a rock steady frame rate on any PC today, whereas it didn’t at the time of release (it was very laggy, buggy, and crashed a lot).

The game is definitely meant for mouse and keyboard though. You need some very high precision aiming and a steady hand to cope with the scope wobble (unless you train to master level).

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[–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (5 children)

The Enhanced Edition for System Shock makes it perfectly suitable for anyone used to FPS controls, the "remaster" changes so much that it is hardly the same game.

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[–] magusfungus@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

There's never been such an abundance of games and consoles as there is now. There are more games than anyone could ever play, both new and old. Releasing another poorly made remaster doesn't mean no ones making new original games. I don't think there hasn't been a year I didn't play an original, engaging and creative new video game. It's literally the golden age of gaming.

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

The diversity and quantity of videogames accessible today is crazy.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I really liked Human Revolution.

Never finished Mankind Divided though

[–] Dumhuvud@programming.dev 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Never finished Mankind Divided though

Neither did Eidos-Montréal, apparently.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago
[–] Hubi@feddit.org 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Mankind Divided was the best Deus Ex since the original tbh. Such a shame that we'll never get a sequel.

[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

For sure. It was great. I've played every entry in the series and those 2 are the memorable ones.

Invisible war was awful but the hellfire boltcaster was immensely fun to use on the Templars lol.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I played some of Human Revolution but I didn’t like the grind-factor (nor did I like the weird forced boss fights).

The original Deus Ex was so beautiful for the way you gained exploration and progress experience for finding secrets and accomplishing goals. Replacing that with a more “RPG-like” system that rewards hacking every single computer and doing non-lethal takedowns on every single enemy totally ruined it for me.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

The gameplay of HR wasn't perfect, but I really enjoyed the story. At least at the time. I imagine it holds up pretty well, but I really cannot say

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Making something new means taking a risk. Maybe it won't sell well. So it's more beneficial to profits to re-make something that has already proven its worth.

That's how modern AAA devs operate. That's why every AAA game in a franchise feels pretty much the same. And that's why indie and AA games are far superior.

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[–] vonxylofon@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm not sure it's going to be soulless, but the problem is that the main premise is the government of highly competent psychopaths manufactures an emergency to gain total power, while the population withers. A cautionary tale, if you will.

The thing is that in reality, the government of highly incompetent psychopaths is gaining total power absolutely unopposed, while half the population applauds.

That would make the remake sound positively cozy.

The original game has plenty of characters who are true believers in the government lie: the UNATCO soldiers, the mech agents, and even multiple civilians who either work for or support the government.

The main resistance force, the NSF (Northwest Sessionist Forces), is pretty controversial among the public. People seem to be split between viewing them as terrorists or heroes. Not unlike the way people view antifa in real life!

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Capitalism. Remasters are easy money. Originals are risky investments. It's always about the money.

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[–] addie@feddit.uk 82 points 2 days ago (23 children)

I didn't ask for this.

The original looks fine; it's gone from 'okay for 2000', through to 'dated' and back to 'retro charm' again. Plus you can turn up the resolution and fps to silly levels, which wasn't the originally intended effect but is pretty nice.

All early 3D games look so bad that the slight year-on-year improvements are nearly irrelevant now. A hideous AI texture 'upgrade' doesn't bring it to to modern standards, and distracts from the truly amazing game behind it all.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The funny thing is the original is only playable with fan patches so technically I can see demand for a remaster. They just really fumbled this in a weird way.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 days ago

I didn't ask for this

Ok, Adam

[–] FarceOfWill@infosec.pub 5 points 2 days ago

I didn’t ask for this.

What a shame.

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[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

All my fears came true when I saw it wasn't Nightdive doing it. Nightdive wouldn't have changed shit mechanically, they would have just incorporated GMDX/Revision textures.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Honestly I rather have Nightdive studios remake it

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 day ago

I demand a reremake

[–] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 days ago (5 children)

We already have mods like GMDX (moddb/GOG). Also you need better specs to run it than Mankind Divided. It's going to suck.

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[–] heavy@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 days ago (6 children)

You don't play OG deus ex for the graphics or... Combat tbh, but this seems like a half ass coat of paint instead of anything of real substance. You can already play Deus ex on modern hardware so I don't know what you're really getting here.

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[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

That game was never about the visuals anyway.

[–] AshCircuit@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Such a great game! Everytime I start cooking Chinese food at home the China Town-esk music from this game starts playing in my head

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)
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[–] Someone64@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago

Aspyr doing their usual...

[–] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Somethingsomethingsomething UNATCO? 😶

[–] heavy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago
[–] Peffse@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I know the headline references it, but it's amazing how much it looks like Invisible War.

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[–] NotKyloRen@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I wonder if they're still dealing with engine limitations? Not excusing them, because the feedback is actually on point if you see the screenshots/trailer. But I'm wondering if there's a poly count limit or something.

They're clearly bolting on the graphical improvements on top of this antiquated engine, rather than rewriting it. I wonder if they need to "trick" the engine (like with RTX Remix, where the game isn't "aware" of the changes).

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 21 points 2 days ago (9 children)

These are the recommended system requirements. Not sure what they are doing behind the scenes but they are absolutely ridiculous for a game of this scope.

[–] NotKyloRen@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

It's even dumber: look at the minimum requirements, too. The insane difference between the minimum and recommended tell me that it's the original engine with a ton of shit bolted on top.

That's the only reason they'd recommend a 2080 or above -- just sheer brute force. I hope I'm wrong, but I smell an unoptimized rerelease. Someone mentioned this studio remastered a Star Wars game (I forget which) and apparently it didn't go well.

We needed Nightdive studios for this.

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