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[–] Doorknob@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago

Who wants to give me a billion dollars to dig a hole and I'll give you a billion to fill it back in and we'll both say to investors we posted a billion dollars in revenue.

[–] BigBrownBeaver@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

rookie numbers.. you gotta pump it up

[–] gergolippai@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Just exploitative market grab for early dominance. (Or: "Grift" lol.) They will make it back when all of us have no choice but use chatgpt for everything.

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I don't see them eliminating Linux from the internet

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

technically according to NSPM-7 any FOSS is terroristic by nature because it's anticapitalist.

that means if you have contributed to FOSS at any time, you are a terrorist. technically.

[–] Stitch0815@feddit.org 1 points 4 hours ago

I know this is not a real discussion :D

But I don't think FOSS is inherently anticapitalist. It's just not late stage capitalism. There are plenty of commercial FOSS projects.

Sure you could compile them from source or download somones executable. But especially companies often want convenience, customer support and LTS versions.

[–] J52@lemmy.nz 4 points 7 hours ago

It's not small change anymore. That's what happens when you don't listen to your customers.

[–] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

You have to make money to lose money.

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

That's not what the bank told me

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 32 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I thought for-profit companies were supposed to make a profit...

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 62 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Well actually there is a long and rich history of companies that are able to operate at a loss using funds appropriated from sale of shares to investors, and this process continues so long as new investors keep buying in such that anybody selling out is covered by the new funds until enough people try to sell out that the price starts to plunge, although the collapse can be delayed by the company strategically buying back and occasionally splitting or reorganizing, meaning everyone gets their money back unless they sell too late.

You know.

A fucking Ponze Scheme.

[–] reptar@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Well that's a damn good post Mr banjo

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 hours ago

Ding ding na na na na na ding ding ding

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 20 points 13 hours ago

Oh honey, that hasn't been true since 2008.

The government will bail out companies that get too big to fail. So investors want to loan money to companies so that those companies become too big to fail, so that when those investors "collect on their debt with interest" the government pays them.

They funded Uber, which lost 33 billion dollars over the course of 7 years before ever turning a profit, but by driving taxi companies out of business and lobbying that public transit is unnecessary, they're an unmissable part of society, so investors will get their dues.

They funded Elon Musk, whose companies are the primary means of communication between politicians and the public, a replacing NASA as the US government's primary space launch provider for both civilian and military missions, and whose prestige got a bunch of governments to defund public transit to feed continued dependence on car companies. So investors will get their dues through military contracts and through being able to threaten politicians with a media blackout.

And so they fund AI, which they're trying to have replace so many essential functions that society can't run without it, and which muddies the waters of anonymous interaction to the point that people have no choice but to only rely on information that has been vetted by institutions - usually corporations like for-profit news.

The point of AI is not to make itself so desirable that people want to give AI companies money to have it in their life. The point of AI is to make people more dependent on AI and on other corporations that the AI company's owners own.

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 28 points 16 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 27 points 15 hours ago

Billions in investment. Trillions in speculation. All on something that makes less money than Genshin Impact.

Fun times.

[–] ook@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

More like a drain amirite???

[–] ReHomed@lemmy.cafe 50 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Good.

Fuck AI, send it directly to hell.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 42 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

AI is here to stay. AI is also in an unsustainable bubble. Both things are true

[–] melfie@lemy.lol 9 points 15 hours ago

It’s useful. It wastes a lot of my time with its stupid bullshit. Both are true. 😆

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[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 16 points 16 hours ago

Is that why MSFT dumped like 3.5% today?

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

*bubble pop!

[–] jlow@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 17 hours ago
[–] someacnt@sh.itjust.works 62 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Maybe, just maybe, the bubble started bursting now.

[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 34 points 21 hours ago (16 children)

I wish. Even knowing it's all a gigantic scam, they'll first protect themselves before letting it burst and screw everybody else. The rich get a buffer period.

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[–] oakey66@lemmy.world 35 points 21 hours ago

Wow. Glad they just converted to a for profit entity! Can’t wait for them to unleash all this success on to the the general financial market.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 30 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

The whole "AI" thing is one big grift.

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[–] RustyOwl@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I bet this is amazing for tax write off. With their already ridiculous tax break, this should pair well with it.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

That's like saying you're glad you got paid less because that means you'll pay less taxes.

[–] RustyOwl@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I understand how dumb it sounds, but many companies benefit from losing money, but it doesn't mean they are broke.

No, OpenAI is sustained by investment money, not actual revenue from products.

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