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[–] decipher_jeanne@lemmy.blahaj.zone 184 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ah yes. This surely will have no long term consequences.

[–] Cheems@lemmy.world 65 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Definitely won't do anything to hurt the common person

[–] handsoffmydata@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I thought that was the final goal of neoliberalism.

[–] lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone 150 points 1 week ago (2 children)

We are living the paperclip maximizer problem, except instead of paperclips it's data centers.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 89 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Well, we’re not even anywhere close to AGI yet, and the underlying problem of “the people running everything these days are not programmed to value living things - only money” Is pretty fucking obvious at this point

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 33 points 1 week ago (2 children)

i wish it was agi doing this, then maybe it could be reasoned with. rich pieces of shit that are detached from reality and humanity can't.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The AGI you are talking about sounds woke, and that’s illegal under an executive order that takes effect at the end of the year, at least in the US.

[–] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 week ago

We thought we'll get artificial intelligence, but all we got was organic stupidity.

[–] TheBlackLounge@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 3 points 1 week ago

ho-ly shit. this was a good read and it damn well predicted where we are almost 9 years on. 2 things that stuck out

  1. "It's not like I'm predicting that airliners will fly slower and Nazis will take over the United States, is it?"
    this one... just like, reading it was like oh boy little do you know.

  2. "It might be Facebook or Twitter messages optimized to produce outrage, or it could be porn generated by AI to appeal to kinks you aren't even consciously aware of." This one really hit the nail on the head. Whether its boomers on Facebook watching fake baby interviews, or everyone else on Reddit and TikTok falling for rage bait (and the gooners on X). Just... man. Why don't people get off their asses and fucking do something about this stuff? Why didnt they? I try to vote, and call local electives, participate in my community and keep people informed but Jesus. i dont know where we'll end up by 2036 if we aren't enslaved by that point.

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[–] Godric@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Funnily enough, I was just introduced to this fascinating little game about being a paperclip making machine.

https://www.decisionproblem.com/paperclips/index2.html

I spent a good 3 or 4 hours playing instead of sleeping.

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[–] renrenPDX@lemmy.dbzer0.com 83 points 1 week ago (5 children)

So glad I built my computer earlier this year. RAM prices now are triple what I paid for.

[–] Kjell@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I regret so much that I didn't, I was planning to build a new PC now or in the beginning of next year. But with the current RAM prices I will stick to my 5 years old AMD 5600x. I will have to start playing games in my backlog if the framerate in new games becomes too low.

[–] renrenPDX@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s insane. Back then I still had to deal with GPU prices and availability. I had to buy the 9070xt in a MOBO bundle that I’ll never use and was cheaper than buying alone at the time. The same GPU now is $50 US less than what I paid for then so it was a pretty good price considering.

[–] Kjell@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Normally the GPU prices decreases so 50$ cheaper in 1 year is completely normal. However, in the coming years I fear that the GPU prices will increase again when the GDDR production decreases to make room for the HBM production for AI.

[–] renrenPDX@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah, but that was a bundle promo price offer. I essentially got a free AM5 board and still paid less than the GPU sold separately. Classic Newegg dumping unsold merch. What sucks is you can't return one without the other, even with an RMA.

[–] Wigglesworth@retrolemmy.com 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'd upgrade to your cpu lmao

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago

I wasn't sure how bad it was until I just checked.

last December I bought a 2x32gb DDR5 kit for $160. right now, same kit, almost $600.

this is fucking insane man.

fuck AI.

[–] moonshadow@slrpnk.net 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm in the exact opposite position... hoarding bits on the cheap, all I need is ram and psu but ram now costs more than I paid for everything else put together and scavenging sources have dried up completely

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[–] Asmodeus_Krang@infosec.pub 8 points 1 week ago

No kidding! I postponed replacing my old Sandybridge in 2020 because of pandemic prices and then jumped on building my new rig in early 2024 when prices were the lowest I'd seen in some time. Also, grabbing a couple more sticks of 32 Gb DDR4 for my homelab this spring now seems like it was a good choice.

[–] askat@programming.dev 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Me too, the only regret that I stayed with 16Gb instead of going for 32Gb or more

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[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 67 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 week ago

El Chavo del Ocho Reference!!!!!! Elite ball knowledge 🤝🤝🤝

[–] Infernal_pizza@lemmy.dbzer0.com 59 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Why has RAM suddenly got so expensive? We've been chasing this AI shit for the last 3/4 years and GPUs etc have been expensive the whole time, but somehow RAM has been ok until literally the last couple of weeks?

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 91 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

OpenAI abruptly bought 40% of global supply, and announced it.

Other companies found out about it when OpenAI announced and thought holy shit, if we hadn't heard of this massive deal, what else haven't we heard of?!, and so they started panic buying.

On top of that, because of US tariffs and trade restrictions, the Chinese "B-tier" memory companies, who usually buy old machines from the big 3 (SK-Hynix, Samsung, Micron) and sell this lower spec RAM at lower margins, didn't buy up these machines as much as they usually do. They weren't sure they'd be able to make a profit given their lower margins, should tariffs suddenly change again or other restrictions get put in place.

[–] Cenotaph@mander.xyz 67 points 1 week ago

Micron actually just closed their consumer business to sell all their RAM to AI firms instead

https://investors.micron.com/news-releases/news-release-details/micron-announces-exit-crucial-consumer-business

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Ah, so it's the 2020 toilet paper crisis all over again, but with RAM

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 week ago

Fucking slop factories.

[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 week ago

Basically as I understand it sam altman made a deal to buy a majority of the semiconductor wafers needed to make ram from the two biggest manufacturers, and the third biggest saw that and went "oh ok time to make a killing selling tam to businesses" qnd pulled out of the consumer market so now there's just fucking none being made for consumers because of one giant fucking dickwad

[–] drdiddlybadger@pawb.social 25 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Is there even enough power on the grid for all these data centers? Wtf?

[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nope. A couple of them have been built and they're just sitting there unpowered

Imagine you had infinite money and no consequences

I mean you could like— build entire city size data centers right?

But this infinite money goes away if you're not building them

So your choices are to build something that you don't need or to have no money

You see, humans were not very evolved or adapted to their planet, given their own social structures

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A couple of them have been built and they’re just sitting there unpowered

Most of them in California because that State simply cannot get its shitty power grid sorted out. The damn thing barely works at the best of times due to a combination of corruption, greed, and Government interference.

As an example the utility company promised Digital Realty and Stack Infrastructure that they'd have the power ready for them by the time their DCs were built but...SURPRISE...they lied. The only fault for DR and SI here is trusting a California Utility to deliver on their promise.

[–] PrinzKasper@feddit.org 24 points 1 week ago

Of course, you just turn off the power for all the poor people

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 week ago

No, some of them are running generators on site to get more power.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's many new jobs opening in the AI sector, pedalling on dynamo bikes.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

In the middle ages machines where powered by peasants in human-sized hamster wheels. I think that tech may make a come back.

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[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 9 points 1 week ago

Power availability is actually a primary consideration when choosing a location for a Data Center. Sometimes they'll site a DC even if there isn't enough power and then build out the power generation that they need.

An example are the two DCs that Microsoft is building in Cheyenne, Wyoming and the absolutely massive 1.2 Million panel solar farm being built to power them. https://cowboystatedaily.com/2024/05/11/massive-1-2-billion-1-2-million-panel-solar-farm-planned-for-south-cheyenne/

This is at least the second time that Microsoft has done this in Cheyenne. In 2016 they contracted for 237 MW of Wind Energy, which led to the Chokecherry and Sierra Madre wind farms being built / expanded. https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2016/11/14/latest-energy-deal-microsofts-cheyenne-datacenter-will-now-powered-entirely-wind-energy-keeping-us-course-build-greener-responsible-cloud/

No matter what you think of AI the folks that engineer these DCs aren't stupid. They are well aware of their extreme power requirements.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Depends how dirty you accept the power.

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[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This OpenAI RAM buyout really was a "If we're going down, we're taking everyone with us" move.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They'll pivot to being the world's largest RAM re-saler and clean up.

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[–] actualaccount@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 week ago

Samsung put 12 gigs of ram in my phone. I don't even use that much.

[–] theyoyomaster@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Damn, I was hoping to upgrade my ram in the next 6 months. When I built my PC last winter I couldn’t find any decent 64gb sticks so I went with 46gb instead figuring I’d upgrade when they got reasonable. Oh well, guess I’m rocking them for a bit longer.

[–] Johanno@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

46 gb should suffice for the next years.

You always can move your swap onto the cloud.

Or actually put it on a fast nvme

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Damn Samsung, they ruined Samsung!

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

You chaebols sure are a contentious people.

[–] WorldieBoi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Glad I built a new PC in the spring but bummed that I only bought a stick of 32GB DDR5 memory thinking that I would buy another 32 after a few months. I guess I won't be needing dual channel memory after all.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Memory should always be purchased in pairs, anyway, so your plan wasn't really an option to begin with.

[–] IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I feel like an elite for buying 2 48 GB sticks a year ago. Muhahaha

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago

That explains why the Tab I took out credit for, suddenly disappeared off the manufacturing site, and they tried to get me a shittier one.

So, I get the excuse to refund the money, I have to pay off the rates, but at least I get the cash upfront 😎

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