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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/55094518

“The UK government wants technology companies to block explicit images on phones and computers by default to protect children, with adults having to verify their age to create and access such content,” the FT report said. “Ministers want the likes of Apple and Google to incorporate nudity-detection algorithms into their device operating systems to prevent users taking photos or sharing images of genitalia unless they are verified as adults.”

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[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 166 points 1 month ago (4 children)

OMG. These plans are getting on my nerves.

When a parent gives a kid their device and sets the child’s birthday, then enable these. If the birthday is over 18, the let them do what they want.

Let parents parent the kid and get the government out of my life.

[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 77 points 1 month ago (15 children)

Or just don’t fucking age gate shit.

Seriously who the fuck cares if a kid sees a titty?

[–] Mondez@lemdro.id 54 points 1 month ago

Worse is that it likely won't be able to distinguish between intentionally titilating material and material intended to educate. Only over 18 are allowed to learn about human physiology after submitting identifying information.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I've been watching porn since I was 10.

That's all. Porn is great.

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[–] MudMan@fedia.io 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's kind of unfortunate how much this has been encouraged by petty online fights. People were very excited when "will somebody think of the children" was applied to, say, some social media content or gaming loot boxes because the Internet did not like those things, so they were very happy to ignore the pre-existing parental control devices and request blanket bans. Then people remembered that a bunch of old, prudish people on both sides of the political aisle don't like porn and it was too late.

Man, people love the "they first came for" argument online and I should have guessed the first time it really pays off in the 21st century it'd include the absolute most depressing things possible instead.

Anyway, this is bad and I don't like it, but UK politics are almost as bad as US politics, so I'm happy to let both stew in their own cautionary tale juices.

[–] evilcultist@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago (5 children)

None of those other things should require any sort of identity or age verification, though. In the case of loot boxes, government should be able to tell companies, “hey, you can’t sell that here”. In the case of age verification and nudity scanning there’s a whole host of issues from the fact that people don’t find loot boxes to be taboo or embarrassing to the fact that people do find nudity and porn embarrassing, to the fact that any scanning systems will false flag, to questions about who has access to the data that is submitted and how long it is stored, to how easy it could be to misuse the systems to go after disadvantaged groups (we all know LGBT content will intentionally be covered by this, whether they’re open about it or not, right?), to whether or not the system will be used for other purposes that either aren’t being said aloud or won’t be realized until after it’s implemented.

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[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 108 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Puritanical bullshit... what the fuck.

*It's like tumblr banning nudity, which basically came down to banning any picture containing nipples. Except like, for a whole backwards country.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 84 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

UK war on ...nudity?

Them being prude is nothing new but this takes the cake.

[–] BlueEther@no.lastname.nz 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Home of the [in]famous page 3 Girls

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[–] habitualcynic@lemmy.world 62 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Even if you’re morally opposed to the various things this addresses, it is so immensely concerning and unwise to want a corporation to have this much control over your actions, daily life, and liberty.

I don’t think enough people talk about that.

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[–] Infernal_pizza@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 1 month ago

Jesus fucking Christ I hate this shithole of a country

[–] deleted@lemmy.world 51 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We need a solid linux phone fast.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Saw posts about one on Lemmy today, seems to be pretty cheap too

[–] raviiishing@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago (4 children)
[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 49 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Ahhhhhh just fuck off you useless cunts! Why don't you fix the fact that we've got kids fucking starving in this country before worrying about if they've seen tits before they're 18?!

It's dumb shit like this that is really pushing me to KMS once my mother has passed on. I can't stand sharing oxygen with these morons.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Never KYS for something that's somebody else's fault.

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[–] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 48 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Gotta love how it's "better" in these assholes' "minds" to pretend sex doesn't exist than to actually parent them on the topic that the kids are gonna find out about anyway - often in an unexpected and/or uncontrolled fashion. I'd much rather get ahead of that and make sure they know what they need to before they come face-to-face with it and are clueless - something much more likely to result in what is a supposedly (because they sure are picking the worst way to avoid it) undesirable outcome in the end.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's about surveillance. The nudity is a made-up reason.

[–] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 8 points 1 month ago

I know this, but the general populace eats this shit up. They either refuse to believe that, or "think" it's somehow worthwhile to "protect the children" (because they sure AF can't be bothered to parent properly).

[–] Takashiro@lemmy.today 41 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In the end it isn't about the kids , what they want is control and tracking of everyone.

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[–] Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip 41 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Bringing back the prudish Victorian era?

[–] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

I could actually imagine Starmer flustered by the sight of an ankle.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Soon: Police sirens have been detected, video recording terminated.

police begin shooting protesters

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

that will quickly turn into "continuously monitor your users' screens for what they are doing so you can detect nudity" where the real aim will ofcourse be surveillance and selling highly personal data. I don't know about Apple but google will be all over it.

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[–] treesquid@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

England is turning into a really proper shithole country

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

American here......first time?

[–] specialseaweed@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As the dad of a teenager, I am "encouraging" him to put nudity blocking systems on his phone.

oh shit would you look at that i just taught him how to go around me and hide his behavior better im sure there will be no future consequences whatsoever

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

The important thing isn't that your kids don't see porn, it's that they feel the requisite amount of shame and never talk to you about their sexuality.

Also, it's one more thing we can criminalize in a surveillance state. So now we can more easily extort horny people with fines and prison if we feel the need

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 1 month ago

Seems more reasonable to put UK-blocking systems on them...

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Kier Starmer is a nevernude. Pass it on.

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[–] acme401@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Gargle my balls, m'lord.

[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 month ago

Year of the linux phone

If they make it obligatory, sudo systemctl disable uk-spyware

(I know that in that case it would be illegal to disable, solvable with sudo systemctl enable uk-spyware-spoof)

[–] toebert@piefed.social 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They're doing their part in UK politics. Tories stole everything they could and drove it all into the ground until everyone got sick and elected labour. Now they're raising taxes to put money back in and doing everything they can to make sure they're hated enough that there is no chance they get re-elected. Then, Tories can just walk back in and take all the money coming in from the new taxes again. It's a beautiful cycle of the general population getting fucked from both sides.

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[–] SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 month ago

Why, yes I would like to get literally cockblocked by Google and Apple. Thanks UK! /s

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 month ago

100 members of the lords vs one adguard filter

[–] BigBolillo@mgtowlemmy.org 14 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Client side scanning, it's already happening in android running google services there are two apps automatically installed which at least I know scan photos in the device. One is android system saftycore and the other I can't remember the name.

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[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago

Looks like click-bait. It is a proposal from by one old fart in the 800 member House of Lords. Not a serious Bill.

Read this thread...

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1pnsawo/comment/nubbach/

Having said that, it is important to nip such ideas in the bud.

[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They’re obviously going about it the wrong way, but this is inching towards the right way to go - keep age verification like biometric verification, encrypted and on-device. That’s a million times better than getting random pron sites to ask for your biometric data.

If they’d started with this thought and then kept thinking from there, they could have ended up with something decent and effective, rather than the current shitshow.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 month ago

Make it the software that comes with the device. So Samsung can install some child protection app and we just uninstall it. Anything bad ever happens on a kids phone? Why did the parents uninstall it?

Make the parents take the responsibility.

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