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Flock Exposed Its AI-Powered Cameras to the Internet. 404 Media Tracked Themselves.
(www.404media.co)
Tear em down
this post was submitted on 22 Dec 2025
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Or like someone in Hacker News comm suggested, use this to track a US Senator for 24 hours, make it all public, then see if they're still OK with this...
They'll just make it illegal for just them. Like the Internet privacy
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Hacker News Thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46355548
Without the ycombinator
That's the first I've seen a HN web client. Why does it exist, and what's the reason against linking directly to Y Combinator?
YCombinator is a VC fund trying to pretend like they're hacker(tinkering) friendly community, when their business model is boosting their own companies/startups. And companies aren't hitting those profits with people tinkering.
https://soatok.blog/2025/12/17/the-revolution-will-not-make-the-hacker-news-front-page/
In all, that doesn't align with the hacker ethos. They're just capitalizing on what it stands for with a lot of techbro hubris.
The first step of limiting their influence is using a different opensource frontend.
Peter Thiel invested in Flock through Y Combinator
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This is the way.
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I do not consent.
The idea that you're somehow not entitled to privacy based on the publicity of a space has got to be one of the most successful propaganda campaigns used to strip privacy against the will of people.
Fuck you, I want to take a walk and generally travel freely without being tracked by some fucking "Flock" or Ring camera, or uploaded unblurred to some randos Instagram where Meta and Clearview will train facial recognition and generative AI, or having my entire life story and biometric data collected at some airport.
Take me back to the thousands of years humanity existed without obscenely invasive tech.
It's the "common sense" part of the laws.
A honest person has right to live without being tracked. You shouldn't care how they'll do it and you shouldn't care if they go out of business.
And of course you shouldn't fear to be public about it and demand answers, LOL, the most notable for me personally part about today's politics is that in English-speaking countries that fear seems to have become a thing. Well, because any protest that's more than a demonstration is becoming dangerous and costly.
While literal legalism always helps tyranny.
It's not much different from USSR in the 70s and 80s, "yeah, you can have all your rights, a defendant and all, and correspondence and you won't be tortured for submitting a complaint, and Soviet laws will be followed to the letter, but good luck, prove you're not a camel".
Since USSR and western nations no longer exist in the same time period, it's easy to discard even the thought that the latter are gradually becoming similar to the former in some regards, and might even overshoot it.
Anyway, I live in Russia, here things are for the last few months at the point where I can get jailed for writing even this, just because. LOL again.
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Original is better
The original is better because no higher resolution version actually looks like the original. It's so weird, it's not hars at all to make a higher res one that's almost identical to the original yet all the ones I've seen just look like shit. I'm gonna take some time tomorrow and make a high resolution version with the details correct.
The high res one looks better as a cutout instead of the full background, but the jpeg adds to the charm IMHO.
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I don't think it's an upscale. I think it's an mspaint recreation. There's no reason an AI upscale would turn the cheek circles into ellipses and move them away from the edge of the cheek. All the colors are also different, and the geometry differs in places too.
I swear to God if this is AI upscaled
Again? How insecure are these things? I am honestly wondering how easy it would be to get into one and shut down the entire system.
It's obvious that these guys are fucking amateur hour Techbros, running this shitshow as they have. I don't doubt they're underpaying and undertraining the contractors they hire to install these things.
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Benn Jordan did a recent video on his...explorations of Flock cameras. Essentially, they're easily hackable and really should be an urgent matter of national security.
Dude, he just released another one where they accessed dozens of real, currently in use cameras. They didn't even "hack" them, they just used a search engine to find publicly exposed cameras, opened their unsecured internal web panel, and could download and view any footage over the past 31 days, including from the new face tracking cameras that zoom in and pan on people's unsuspecting faces as they walk by.
Truly wild.
Reading flock their own response about their security and recording it via one of their active and installed cameras was fucking great. I mean, it was nightmare shit, but at a certain point, you have to appreciate the irony.
My own mother (pensioner) sent me the video asking "is this real?" But could only follow the first minutes of it.
I lol'd at that part and had to explain the brilliance of it. Then she lol'd, too.
It's nice to share in the shadows humor, as a family, while we feel our liberties erode.
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I was living in a 10th story penthouse apartment as a new building started beside us. The contractor put a webcam high up on the structure so people could watch construction live on a website. They left the control panel fully exposed so all you had to do was find the IP address of the camera and boom, you had full control. I would point it directly at my apartment's window and wave, or my friends would do silly shit. Every morning the cam would be reset, but they never actually secured it. That's when I realized how fucked we were, 20 years ago.
I wouldn't be surprised if it got found by Shodan, which scans the entire internet, indexes it and is easily searchable.
There's actually quite a few open webcams on the internet that shouldn't be.
Benn Jordan did a great video on this: https://youtu.be/vU1-uiUlHTo
He co-released a video with 404Media on this new dystopian finding today as well.
A city in the KC Metro just signed a contract with Flock for drone cameras. Fuck that Big Brother bullshit.
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I seem to recall an early 00s screed, perhaps by Bruce Schneier or someone of that ilk, suggesting a future in which yes we have surveillance in the public square, but since it's public, everyone has full access to all the public-place cameras at any time. So you could use it to, say, see around the corner of an alley at night.
That was David Brin in The Transparent Society. He has continued to riff on the theme periodically since then.
Snip their wires, spray paint their lens, or put a hammer on the end of a tall stick. it should be easy to take these things out. Of course don't do anything or have anything on you that would identify you were in the area at the time of these actions.
There is now enough adjacent cctv coverage to follow your approach and exit from the scene of the crime. The rush is that another Flock camera is used to identify, and then make an example out of you or me.
Honestly? Good. These cameras should either be public or dismantled. I'd like to see them dismantled, but worst case scenario is the current one where they're selectively used by law enforcement
iirc they weren't even the first ones to discover this because there was already someone on the blackmarket selling data collected from exposed cameras and endpoints which included PII of entire police departments.
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