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[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

I had an upgrade plan for my PC that involved a step up to a 4k monitor, but when the time came, it was hard enough just finding a 4k monitor with decent specs that I stopped to really think about whether I would really benefit from it. I already knew I didn't need it, but I realized that I wouldn't even really gain anything from it. I already used the UI scaling with the one 4k monitor I had at work, so that was a wash. And for games, I didn't really have any times when I wished the resolution was higher than the 1440p I was already using, but I did have times when I wished it would generate the frames faster or more consistently.

Part of the change was a new GPU to handle 4k better (they were supposed to justify each other), but I ended up just getting an ultrawide 1440p monitor instead.

I don't think I'll ever bother with higher than 4k for TV or 1440p for PC.

[–] garretble@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago

Yeahhhhh 8K is going to be pretty far off considering we still get 1080p "enhanced" trash with YoutubeTV for sports games. It looks like ass on my good, 4K TV. I can't imagine that on an 8K display.

Though some sports - like the Unrivaled games on HBO - are of a higher quality, you just don't get that everywhere.

And that's just sports. Couple that with the fact that some people still have data caps, and I just don't see widespread adoption any time soon.

[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

That's because the answer isn't higher resolutions, it was legally enforcing h.265 to be open source. Now the solution is AV1, but video codecs shouldn't be locked down like that.

To act like that was ever in favor of "protecting the sciences" is a fucking joke.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Umm.... ok, but that's not really related to this article...

Everyone ditching H265 in favor af AV1 universally doesn't make TVs sell any more or any more expensive.

[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

No, my point was that people don't need higher resolution TV's, they need good transcodes that don't look like shit.

Streaming services run at bitrates/codecs that look like dookie compared to bd rips even on my shitty $100 sceptre 1080p Amazon special TV.

Who the fuck is gonna buy an 8K oled panel when no ones willing to conveniently provide content that looks good on it, or even content that pushes their current TV to its fullest extant?

Its not like anyone can afford a GPU that renders modern games at a playable framerate to that either.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Ah, ok, that's fair. I agree that codec/bitrate choice has made a lot of ostensibly '4k' content look like crap, so why have 8k when many providers/internet connections won't even cover the requisite detail to drive 4k in streaming.

[–] art@lemmy.world 25 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

For the majority of people a 1080p60 with a high bitrate and 10+ bit color space will look absolutely perfect. Some can pixel peep and tell, but more people still struggle seeing when the aspect ratio is wrong on their TV.

[–] tehmics@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, if someone can't tell when a circle is an oval, it's the person that is the problem

[–] art@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Last I heard that's close to 50% of the consumers.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 24 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (3 children)

TV manufacturers salivated at the idea of TV resolution, hoping desperately to turn the TV market into something like the PC market, in that you have to upgrade every 5ish years to stay on top of technology and use the latest stuff to artificially increase sales beyond what their already abysmal build qualities provide them.

I'm glad the plan is failing spectacularly.

Hopefully this forces them to think more about quality and start focusing on TVs that actually last now... You know, like we used to have 30 years ago.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

start focusing on TVs that actually last now…

That only makes their "people need to refresh their sets for our bottom line" even worse for them.

BTW, 30 years ago TVs were expensive and still failed. There was a viable TV repair industry because it was worth spending the money to repair and easier to repair.

Anecdotally, my Plasma and my LCDs have been more problem free than when my family had CRT TVs back in the day.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Yeah, exactly. TVs were better back then. they were more durable (The Wiimote accidents would never send a CRT to the dump), and actually repairable.

and they lasted decades. Hell, I've seen people find CRT TVs found abandoned in fields for years and bring them back with minimal effort.

as long as the tube/neck of a CRT is intact, it will run/be repairable.

[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Pfff, they've just turned to adware-laden boxes. Next they'll make up some BS about requiring the device to be Internet connected so you can't disable ads too easily.

That's a big part of enshitification: maximizing profit at the sacrifice of product quality. All of those pro-capitalist folk want you to believe the market will correct itself. The problem is when the entire market is dominated by this mentality and anyone (doing anything different) tries to enter that market is snuffed out immediately. None of the major brands will stray from this model because they are completely and hopelessly servant to the shareholder, and all that matters to them is maximizing profits at any cost. Yay enshitification!

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Yep, and that added complexity to make a dumb TV smart, just means theres more parts that are likely to die and make ethe TV not work.

Its bullshit that the only way to get large dumb TVs anymore is to roll the dice on a Scepter.. Which, given how they procure their screens, could either give you a great TV or a shit TV.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 20 hours ago

I have an fairly high end TV and honestly I don't know what the point is because there is virtually no content that's available for it.

Pretty much none of the streaming services go beyond 4K and often they're at 1080p and I have to upscale to 4K. Consoles also don't go above that 4k and again often in fact don't even hit that.

[–] DirtyAnCom@discuss.online 11 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

What's interesting to me is that film is roughly, perceptually around 8K. However, very very few people have cinema-sized screens in their home, so what's the point if it's "only" even 80 inches?

I think giant 8K monitors are still useful for productivity, but only for a small number of people. I personally like having multiple monitors over one big one.

[–] ccunix@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

I cannot fathom why, but people do not seem capable of understanding resolution, screen size and viewing distance as important factors that interplay with each other.

8k is absolutely pointless on a 49" TV that is several metres away. However, I will take 4k over 1080 on even a 24" computer screen every time.

That is just me though, your preferences and vision may be different to mine. Same with the monitors. You like multiple screens, I prefer a single larger screen.

[–] JordanZ@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

A just drop this here…

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All we want is a clear picture and no ads.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 27 points 22 hours ago

Did you say you want really clear ads? We got just that!

[–] deltaspawn0040@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

4k is a little much for me.

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[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 82 points 1 day ago (16 children)

4k is enough, 60fps is enough, no smart or AI stuff is perfectly fine...

What about reducing the energy consumption? That's an innovation I want.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 hours ago

Modern TVs use a fraction of the energy of CRTs.

[–] HereIAm@lemmy.world 66 points 1 day ago (14 children)

I hope you mean 60hz is enough for TVs. Because I certainly don't want that regression on my monitor 😄

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

At a certain point yours eyes can't tell much difference. It is like music, people would obsess over tweaking their stereo systems to the point where I doubt you could physically tell the difference, it was mostly imagined.

Huge tvs also require big rooms to make the viewing angle work. Not everyone has a room they work in. Apartments are especially too small for huge tvs.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The coathanger experiment should have been the coffin lid on all the audiophile/overpriced super ultra premium cable bullshit.

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