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[–] ZC3rr0r@piefed.ca 124 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I am honestly surprised it took this long for someone to warp freedom of expression right back around to include freedom of hate speech and racist symbolism. "Tolerance of intolerance is intolerance" applies here and I hope this is where the line gets drawn.

[–] DaedalousIlios@pawb.social 48 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Nah, they've been warping it that way since Obama at least, if not earlier. It's just only now they've had a rogue executive branch to back them up.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

One of the major Supreme Court tests of this was from KKK asswipes in Brandenburg in 1969

All the good scrotus podcasts have episodes on it if you’re curious.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

warp freedom of expression right back around to include freedom of hate

Reactionaries have been playing this game since I was in grade school. The Young Conservatives of Texas, notably on the UT college campus, had all sorts of immigrant hate events they'd run every year or two. And when someone would inevitably object or try to intervene, they engaged in a collective scream of martyrdom over their First Amendment Liberties.

None of this seemed to apply to the LGBTQ organizations, the anti-war demonstrators, Muslims, or the union organizers for staff and faculty, of course. You have the right to be a Nazi and nothing else.

“Tolerance of intolerance is intolerance” applies here

I've always preferred the Inglorious Bastards approach to fascists.

You're invited to make your views known. And the rest of us are entitled to brand you with them.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 3 weeks ago

and you are not immune to consequences of being hateful, that is something that ESCAPES white supremecists/neo nazis/conservatives.

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[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's been that way for decades. The ACLU defended the Nazis in 1977 when they wanted to march in Skokie, Illinois. It was a big drawn out test of 1st amendment rights and while the person actually defending them hated them, he felt silencing their speech was tantamount to silencing all speech. It's why there is the scene in the Blue Brothers where Jake says "I hate illinois nazis"

I'm torn on this, because in a way it really is a 1st amendment issue. Does a university that gets public funds and is accredited by the state get to police the political affiliations and speech of it's students? At the college I went to in CA, we routinely had religious fanatics on campus telling us about sin and how people were going to hell, but they had a 1st amendment right to be there. We heckled them and yelled and did sin right in their faces anyways, because fuck them. Schools often have standards similar to public institutions with how they handle free speech, especially state schools.

Personally, I want to see every one in this group beaten to a pulp for their beliefs. And then beaten again. I want to see who they are and ostracize them and make them feel like shit over it.

I feel that it is more up to us to deal with it, than it is for a state institution or a school that is an extension of the state.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Let them salute, but also include in the ruling that taking a picture of them doing nazi salutes, printing up flyers of it, and sending it to their classmates and professors is free speech. So is setting up a twitter account that spams the photo so it's the first thing an employer sees when they do a quick Google search of this person.

They should have all the rights in the world to espouse their nazi beliefs, as long as I have the same rights to make sure those beliefs are well known in every aspect of their lives for the foreseeable future.

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[–] org@lemmy.org 54 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] ignotum@lemmy.world 48 points 3 weeks ago

Of course it's Republicans.

[–] CobraChicken3000@lemmy.ca 40 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Sabatini, a conservative Lake County commissioner [and a douche who is representing these assholes], also claimed the chapter was really shut down because it hosted Florida Republican gubernatorial candidate James Fishback on March 11.

Fishback has repeatedly called his GOP rival, Representative Byron Daniels, a “slave.” Daniels is Black. Sabatini said that event was used to deactivate the group and replace it with more “vanilla” conservatives.

Apparently, vanilla conservative just means conservatives that are not openly racist

[–] FUCKING_CUNO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

College ~~Republicans~~ Nazi Chapter

Can we call the group fighting to use the NAZI salute fucking NAZI's please!?

[–] cjoll4@lemmy.world 39 points 3 weeks ago

If they were called the College Nazis then everyone reading this would assume they were some weird, fringe, extremist group with no popular support whatsoever.

But they're not. They're called the College Republicans of America, and the whole reason this is newsworthy is because of the clear link it draws between Nazism and the Republican party.

I'm all for calling them Nazi scum, but let it be known that these Nazi scum claim to be directly aligned with Donald Trump and the Republican platform.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 32 points 3 weeks ago

Shoot Nazis when you see them. It is always morally correct.

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Inglorious Basterds

"We ain’t in the prisoner-takin’ business; we’re in the killin’ Nazi business. "

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think this is the "we're going to give you something you can't take off" scene because they were forced to take him prisoner.

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, it's a far more menacing image.

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[–] ulkesh@piefed.social 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Fuck Nazis and fascists.  I hope they get the shit beat out of them the moment they try to salute.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is a beaten to a pulp Nazi

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[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I say temporarily allow it. Let them out themselves in public as much as they like for a while. Let them fuck around so that they might find out.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

It won't matter. The places they would go to work in the future, their families, their friends--none of them care.

[–] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is the finding of out. Throw the book at them now. Expel the hate speaker and anyone who endorsed the photo on social media.

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I would agree if we lived in any form of a reasonable world. They are NO WHERE NEAR afraid enough.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

yup, i prefer my nazi's take their masks off personally. makes identifying them easier

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

"college republican" sounds funny, most dont survive past 1-2 years in it, even in Community colleges, they have too many contradictory views to even pass most classes.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

That's what Ivy League is for.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

"If you can't beat the nazi allegations, you must join it!" - republicans

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

Damn they're not even using the "it's a Roman salute" excuse any more. But I bet you they'll complain if you call them Nazis

[–] verdi@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 16 points 3 weeks ago
[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Propagandists. Going around being a dick and calling people names and abusing people is often expellable for most colleges. Imo nazi salutes are just another way to be uncivil and hateful to other students. I see no reason not to expell them.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I think you and I got wildly different versions of justice. Cause I was thinking severe corporal punishment then expulsion.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I don't think schools have that kind of authority, nor should they. What people do on their own time though...

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 2 weeks ago

As far as I know, they aren't being expelled, their dumb little club is just being abolished.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 3 weeks ago

Literally just expell and ban them and their nazi actions. Put em on lists and share the lists publicly

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

For those edgelords, all I can say is...

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[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

Holy fuck as soon as most of our WW2 vets are dead, lame-ass wannabe Nazis are back.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 11 points 2 weeks ago

It looks like someone may decide to exercise their right to shoot Nazis, just like Grandpa did

[–] goodboyjojo@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

i've never gotten why people worship hitler or his ideas. he literally was a racist charlie chaplin cosplayer that dropped out of art school because he couldn't paint. if he was alive today people would call him a incel schizo .

[–] axus@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago

Now roast DJT and JDV

[–] terabyterex@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

the uf chapter was disbanded by the florida republican grouo themselves.

also, the university isnt a government entity so first admendment doesnt work here or am i wrong and does beingba state university mean something?

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This actually is a state school.

It's part of the state university system of Florida.

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[–] Jack@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

ACLU affiliate NYCLU (New York Civil Liberties Union) sued the private ivy league Columbia University over the "suspension of pro-Palestinian groups" so the ACLU of Florida could choose to help these neo-nazis; since the ACLU has in the past helped neo-nazis, Republicans, the KKK, and other horrible groups.

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[–] orlyowl@piefed.ca 9 points 3 weeks ago

I read the headline and thought "this should go in nottheonion." Imagine my surprise... :D

[–] AskewLord@piefed.social 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I don't understand, doesn't this type of stuff go beyond college club stuff and wouldn't it violate the code of conduct for the individuals involved?

Then again, schools don't really seem to give a shit about enforcing rules about cheating anymore, sooo

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[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 weeks ago

Of course they did, because they're republicans...

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Hmm, not a good look, defending a Nazi salute. That will be an interesting addition on your background checks for future employers to consider.

[–] facelessbs@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Okay devils advocate.

This comes down to freedom of speech. And right then and there they should be allowed to do it.

So while I do personally agree that they have the right to do that. I also believe that freedom of speech does not equal freedom of consequences.

It is okay that the tolerant do not tolerate the intolerant.

Now if this is a private university, I did not read the article for I am not in the mood at this time of night, then they do/should have the right to dictate what is appropriate for their campus. While if it is public free speech is free speech.

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Sure, let them do it. Just let the caveat be that the school will look the other way when they get punched.

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