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I suggest watching the video, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QkC1aK7jfLo but the article has an OK summary.

Also a Mastodon shout-out in the video.

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[–] Nomorereddit@lemmy.today 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

Close, its never (or rarely) about cutting out bad habits.

Its about filling your life up with good habits.

Now go get a magic wand for your household. Edit: sharing is caring.

[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Got a magic wand and can confirm, I spend a lot less time on my phone.

Thanks, Hitachi!

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Calling BraveLittleHitatchiWand!

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What's frustrating about this "Your consumer habits are wrong, you should make them better" is that Twitter was (ostensibly) the space for the liberal intelligencia to go for journalism and debate and organizing until Elon Musk bought it.

Does anything stop a billionaire from buying up or shutting down the next social media platform? We can wax poetic about Lemmy/Mastadon as a decentralized and indie-operated environment. But crazy to think Joe Biden/Donald Trump can squash TikTok with a few swipes of the pen, that Feds can play wack-a-mole with ZArchive and Anna's Archive and Wikileaks, etc, while insisting the main hosts for the most popular indie media sites are bulletproof.

Might as well tell people to stop using the internet entirely.

[–] Nomorereddit@lemmy.today 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Ill defer to you.

Except lemme, ive had no social media for...3 years now.

In that time, ive taken up muay thai, gratitude practices, doestevesky, made more rl friends and started a new business.

From what little ive read, X/Twitter has never been for debate....but instead existed as a warzone.

Thoughts?

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[–] Vespair@lemmy.zip 22 points 3 days ago (14 children)

It remains insane to me that it's so hard for so many to just, not use them. Truly, your life is not being enriched by twitter or Facebook. You can delete your account and I promise you won't find yourself missing them.

[–] Heliumfart@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Living rurally, the main thing I hear is "but marketplace". It's a pretty crucial way of getting cheap goods.

[–] Vespair@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Honestly Marketplace is the best argument for FB today. How it has usurped Craigslist I don't understand, maybe because it's easier to navigate, but you're right that it is the defacto modern market.

I don't use it so I forget about it, but this is a good counterpoint.

[–] network_switch@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago

I believe a major reason is reputation tied to a person's account. OfferUp has also superceded Craigslist in my area and I think the user history and reputation system plays a role there. Same with other stuff like eBay, Mercari, StockX. Craigslist is too anonymous

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

it’s so hard for so many to just, not use them

Networking Effect is a bitch. It's like telling someone to stop using AT&T or United Airlines. These are the major arteries of communication for billions of people. Individuals can't abstain from using them without isolating themselves.

You can delete your account and I promise you won’t find yourself missing them.

Spoken like someone who doesn't have their entire extended family posting and chatting on the sites regularly. I get calls from extended family, asking me to weigh in on long conversations and exchanges and posting sprees. And then when I respond on the phone, I get a "No, you have to post it, I'm not going to just repeat it to everyone for you".

Tons of social pressure to just go where everyone else is.

[–] EightBitBlood@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The problem is addiction. Same as any other drug. It's no coincidence that Facebook and X were rolled out as free services, with free accounts, where you can interact with anyone for free.

Before the digital drug dealers running each changed that deal. Needing money, running ads, and restricting what you can do that all used to be free.

These companies got us addicted to using tech in place of human socialization and then monitized that addiction.

People can't leave because for some it's the only human contact they have. Even if it's artificial, they still want it to the point of it hurting themselves. Just like any other addiction.

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Watch the video, they have a great discussion. Jon Stewart seems to think Reddit is great now and Cindy Cohn fights back a little.

[–] Folstar@lemmus.org 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In Jon's defense, Reddit was fairly good and useful (unlike Twitter or FB) at one point many years ago. If you're not active there it would be easy to think things are still good.

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[–] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago

Yeah, he seems to think that the over-moderation is a good thing, and Cindy tries to convince him that censorship is bad and the answer instead is more like what you can do with the Fediverse, you can move servers if you don't like how the server is moderated and who they federate with, but people are free to say what they want in their servers.

[–] deliriousdreams@fedia.io 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] innermachine@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I've always done my part. Never understood twitter in the first place!

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[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 164 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (7 children)

The issue is in order to do so, they will have to make themselves feel less important. These social platforms are designed for exploitation by offering users instant soapboxes, immediate gratification in the form of likes/views/comments, a false sense of connection, etc. This is a sliver of the sickness they've spread.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 84 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Goddammit, I think you just described my relationship with Lemmy.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 69 points 5 days ago

Upvoted to feed the habit.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 38 points 5 days ago (3 children)

To be fair, Lemmy has a ton of really smart people that I learn a lot from too.

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[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

I know you're joking, but it made me think.

On platforms like Twitter I never felt seen. I felt like I was talking to myself for the 30 seconds I actually engaged with it (I never could stand the format or the interface really).

On Lemmy I do feel seen, because it's so much smaller. I know people read what I write and I get way more feedback here than I've ever gotten since (maybe) 2010-era Reddit.

But important? Anyone who can use the Internet to make themselves feel important must have been a sociopath to begin with because as near as I can tell the Internet is a misery machine designed to make you feel like a dumbshit.

Come to think of it, that's probably why I hate the entire concept of "influencers" and the human toilets who call themselves that.

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[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 42 points 4 days ago (15 children)
[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Same. I dropped FB and Twitter several years ago. It helped that I'm old and never kept in touch with family through FB to begin with. Also, I don't buy crap I don't need, so I never used their marketplace.

There are alternatives, but as long as FB doesn't remove features that people use, they won't leave. They can't see that they're being abused, just like every other abusive relationship.

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[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

good luck, this is like trying to convince a heroin addict to quit because it's bad for them....

social media algorithms are too good, they are too enticing. They have turned distraction into a multi-trillion dollar industry, and they are impacting every single one of our lives whether we are even on the platform or not

[–] innermachine@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Problem is discipline. Reach for a book instead of doom scrolling. Get something done on the house instead of reading X shitposts. The way most people use phones is a sick addiction that needs treatment, and nobody intervenes. I mean people can't look in front of their 2 ton steel cage while they hum down the road at 80mph without checking if some random twat added to their snap story lol.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

You and I are the same. Ive been replacing phone distraction crap with better things like books and crafts. Or my GBC, lol

The human brain can't handle all the shit in our devices. They're detrimental to learning.

I recall a book where people were mandated to have an ear piece that shrieks every 6 seconds, to make sure no one ever has any deep thoughts, to keep them dumb and compliant. Guess what our phone notifications are doing? Its probably the worst thing humans have done in the long term.

[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago (5 children)

That would be the short story Harrison Bergeron by Kurt Vonnegut.

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[–] cabbage@piefed.social 71 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (7 children)

I find the disagreement between Cohn and Stewart towards the end to be fascinating. I find it hard to agree or disagree with either. Cohn is looking out for places like the Fediverse - she knows that if the platforms are subjected to regulation that is impossible to live up to for small actors, this will only serve the capitalists. In the US the law would for sure end up serving this purpose because it would be designed by the billionaires themselves, and they would design them in a way that monopolizes the internet even more as they discuss earlier on.

On the other hand, Stewarts is also right. An Instagram feed is not free speech, it's brain rot and propaganda and ruins society and lives. It needs to be regulated. Just letting then go on as they are while promoting alternatives misses the mark as to the threat posed by these platforms. Cohn seems to have a blind spot here.

I think the EU has reached a reasonable compromise. They regulate very large online platforms - platforms with more than 45 million users in the EU - separately from smaller platforms. So your obligations increase with your number of users. Furthermore, EU regulation has exceptions for open source not-for-profit development, to avoid regulation aimed at big tech from hurting free software.

Interesting enough I keep seeing people on the Fediverse attacking the Digital Services Act as though it's gonna mean the end of the Fediverse, even though the Commission is actively posting about it on their own Mastodon instance and the EU is actively supporting the development of the Fediverse through NLnet. It seems to me that even in these spaces people fall for big tech propaganda.

[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 40 points 5 days ago (1 children)

On the other hand, Stewarts is also right. An Instagram feed is not free speech, it's brain rot and propaganda and ruins society and lives. It needs to be regulated. Just letting then go on as they are while promoting alternatives misses the mark as to the threat posed by these platforms. Cohn seems to have a blind spot here.

I don't think so. She said she wants to make them unable to continue with their business like they did before, with regulations. Just not outright censorship, but instead go fight their data harvesting, decapitating their business strategy.

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[–] tomiant@piefed.social 57 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Very cool of him to have a spokesperson for the EFF on, they have tirelessly been fighting the good fight for decades now, they deserve all the spotlight.

[–] eleijeep@piefed.social 39 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Not just a spokesperson. Cindy Cohn is a warrior queen. She's retiring as Executive Director of the EFF this year after serving for over 10 years. She's a lawyer who has been fighting for our civil liberties for over 20 years. Maximum respect.

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[–] Linken@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago

She was a great guest - and it was really cool to hear the "mastadonverse" shoutout haha.

While not 100% her final point, one of the greatest disappointments of the Internet has been watching rot and crumble into just 5 websites, each just posting screenshots/videos from the other four.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 27 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Give them a few more years and every site except big social media will be flagged as dangerous in your browser, like those without valid SSL certs are now.

[–] fuzzzerd@programming.dev 16 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Pushing SSL was probably the last big tech effort/push that actually benefited users. Sure it made self hosting a little harder, and probably consolidated some tracking behind bigger players, but overall end users did benefit.

Most of what I see now is purely for their benefit and users don't benefit.

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[–] BygoneNeutrino@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

The value of social media lies is in it's ability to change thoughts, opinions, and long-term behavior. The public underestimates how effective this technology is, especially when it comes to children. In the absence of regulations, these platforms can make people believe just about anything by exploiting perceived peer pressure.

[–] nullPointer@programming.dev 42 points 5 days ago (11 children)

I love how Jon thinks reddit is now good. way to miss the mark there man.

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[–] architect@thelemmy.club 6 points 3 days ago

We’ve been fucking trying for what? Nearly twenty years?!

[–] fubarx@lemmy.world 38 points 5 days ago (2 children)

EFF supporter for years. Have so many of their t-shirts (amazing designs, btw). Cindy Cohn is the real deal. Anyone online should go pay attention to them.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 43 points 5 days ago (22 children)

I agree with @wesker@lemmy.sdf.org in their comment. No one in real life is on twitter. Twitter is place that seems real because people on media convince themselves its real and give it substance.

No materially meaningful thing happens on twitter, and its perceived importance is a byproduct of media hyping it up.

Now meta.. thats an altogether different beast. FB market place captured most of what used to happen on craiglist. Its how entire families organize and keep together.

In terms of analysis, I'm annoyed at Cohn here. This isn't something we as individuals have control of. Her saying people individually have to make the difference is like saying you individually have to make the difference regarding climate change by making different choices, like recycling.

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[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago

I think Jon Stewart and John Oliver should promote socialism without even saying socialism. Seriously!

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 13 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Then she says Bluesky doesn't have an algorithm while he defends the openness of Reddit.

These are the experts...

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[–] _lilith@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago

Droppin the link to the EFF website save you the search

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