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[–] Triumph@fedia.io 28 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

One of them is Outlook from MS Office, the other is New Outlook (what used to be Outlook Express). The latter is a royal pain to fully disable, and once you've launched it, it takes over everything.

So what's happening is they're supposed to be using MS Office Outlook, but New Outlook is in the way. Hence the "neither one works" bit. I know how to solve this, have them give me a call.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

Its funny I've run into this same issue at work in addition to Microsoft asking for my SSO but then giving me some Outlook code as a two-factor verification that I've never once had work properly (the code never shows up in outlook on my work phone or PC and I always have to go to the "use other options" and do the SMS code.

[–] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

They now call it Outlook Classic and it will disappear, only shitty New Outlook will stay. And yes, it's a royal pain.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

I don't understand why isn't it talked about more that the new outlook uploads your email account login passwords to microsoft, and accesses your emails through microsoft servers. a gaping violation of privacy and security

[–] LincolnsDogFido@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 hours ago (5 children)

Can I ask why people still use dedicated email software? I'm sure there's a reason. Maybe just familiarity, but I've never once opened my email inbox from anything other than a browser. It seems like a royal PITA.

[–] timestatic@feddit.org 2 points 58 minutes ago

Thunderbird is pretty neat tho

[–] northernlights@lemmy.today 3 points 3 hours ago

Familiarity, better integration in the desktop, generally many more options (including extensions) than web versions, UI better adapted to a desktop computer, better at managing multiple accounts, are my reasons. I like Betterbird personally.

[–] cevn@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

I can see the use case for gmail at least. I tried to access web interface from India and it loaded like for 2 solid minutes before showing up completely unresponsive. I could have had it 10 times faster with a dedicated IMAP client.

[–] Glitchvid@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Ultimately Email is old technology, all the web frontends just get in the way more or less.

I use an email host that has roadmapped switching their frontend to one I don't really like, so figured I'd get ahead of the curve and switch to a client that was open source and compatible with the typical standards — so I could learn it and never have to deal with another client again.

Ended up using Thunderbird, even for my old inboxes at the typical web companies

One client, all my emails in one spot, don't have to deal with stupid UX changes being forced on users.

[–] mech@feddit.org 80 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Imagine training your entire life to become an astronaut, and then you finally get to leave earth's orbit on a historic mission...
But you still have to deal with Microsoft bullshit.

[–] puckpuckpuckow@lemmy.world 30 points 10 hours ago (3 children)
[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It’s an accurate name. The company has explicitly told us that they are a slop-first cloud company.

[–] leftascenter@jlai.lu 3 points 6 hours ago

They are way more than a cloud company: Outlook, both of them, left the could stage yesterday.

[–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago
[–] MurrayL@lemmy.world 0 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

I’ll probably attract downvotes for this, but I find ‘Microslop’ as cringeworthy as old staples like Micro$haft or Crapple.

Like, yeah, they’re shitty companies. But calling them childish names just comes across as petty and insecure, kind of like when Trump gives someone a dumb nickname.

[–] expr@piefed.social 16 points 9 hours ago

Nah, microslop is a great name, especially because they throw tantrums about the name. It's very descriptive of what they have become.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The difference between MicroSlop and Micro$haft or Crapple is that Microsoft is actively slopifying their product. And this isn't just some PC vs Mac slapfight where people are coming up with insulting names, Microsoft actively bragged about pooping out 30% of code with AI and we have MONTHS of news articles about them fucking up their updates even more than usual (and I've been supporting MS products for close to 2 decades).

There's a reason MicroSlop responded to that and not Micro$haft. Because every big company gives their customers the shaft, but not many are actively sabotaging their product to quite the same extent as they are, so the (accurate) name really hurts the company's brand because it's an accurate description of their current output.

[–] MurrayL@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I can see that argument, sure. The fact that they asked people not to use it suggests it is having some effect on their brand.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

Or that they're just very insecure and shortsighted and think that any negative effects on their current numbers are because of something as banal and petty as name calling instead of anti-consumer practices that drive customers away.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 4 points 8 hours ago

I've always hated that kind of thing. There's a presumption in it that "you think so, too" and fuck you don't tell me what I think.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 44 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Windows in a shuttle computer is the most disappointingly dumbass thing NASA has done yet. I say yet because if they'll do something that dumb it clearly needs to have a glass ceiling.

[–] Mad_Punda@feddit.org 21 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

It’s a personal device. Nothing related to the mission.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 14 points 9 hours ago

I guess that's a little better, except that it's still in there. Old NASA would have never let it on board in any capacity.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 6 points 7 hours ago

I'm sure it was nothing mission critical.

I hope.

[–] bryndos@fedia.io 6 points 9 hours ago

Begging for a blue screen of literal death.

It's probably not as bad as failing to check you're operating within the range of component's proven environmental test limits.

That said, I'd love to see the system test scenarios they use to determine how it performs during an unexpected attack from their own OS provider.

[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 35 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

nasa is about to remote into the computer

I've dealt with slow RDP sessions while fixing servers in the past, but the lag on this connection must really suck.

[–] Haquer@lemmy.today 8 points 10 hours ago

At least while they're in orbit you'd be looking at a few hundred ms of latency (due to satellite to ground station bounces). If they need to RDP while at the moon, it's going to be a couple of seconds latency

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 16 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

"Houston, we have a Windows problem"

[–] wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io 11 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

“Outlook is looking bleak, I’m seeing double.”

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 hours ago

“Cannot open Windows in space.”

“Disk space issues.”

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 hours ago