Check the mobile phone records from the idiot driver. He was staring at his iPhone or Galaxy and failed to pay attention to the neo-Nazi shitbox making a directional change. If that's the case, revoke his damn license.
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Bet they are lying and just pressed the wrong pedal by themselves. Bet they were on their phone, the cruise control beeped and then they panicked and floored it. Insurance companies probably have to deal with a ton of Tesla owners who are blaming the Autopilot for a mistake the driver made, even when the cruise control wasn't used.
Seems like a pretty risky lie as the car should have logs saying exactly what happened (at least to the level of detail of cruise control + accelerator vs self-driving).
Until Tesla scrubs that from their log again like they were already caught doing once
Curious: what was the outcome of them being caught doing that?
The jury didn't like it, but it didn't really prove anything that wasn't already known. I'm not really sure why they did what they did in the end? It wasn't disputed that AP was on, and that the guy overrode the saftey systems. The jury found them partially at fault because they allowed the system to operate there and because they claim it didn't work as advertised, and it was a huge jury verdict damages they have to pay.
I have a feeling it's going to get a reduced damages though as it goes through appeals. The dude was looking down for a phone he fumbled with his foot on the accelerator which overrides the safety systems, to the point the car warns you on screen that it will not brake while your foot is on the accelerator. And guess what... the car did not brake! Surprise!
Thanks! I would have had to go looking to remember the details
Oh, that might have been plain old incompetence rather than deliberate evidence tampering if both sides agreed to the bits that incriminate their own side. Unless there was something more going on that the logs would have shown, like "damage detected while self-driving enabled, dispatching Tesla cleanup crew to take care of the witnesses".
It was definitely deliberate. Something happened for some reason.
Maybe they were worried about something bad being in there before they knew the facts were agreed upon, and then they had already dug their own grave?
Non-Tesla cars have black boxes already and have for years so you yeah you're right
I feel like your insurance should automatically be higher for being stupid enough to purchase one.
It is. Tesla insurance is expensive.
"autopilot" shouldn't even be used on a narrow residential street like that.
Are people stupid enough to actually trust Tesla's autopilot, or do they do it on purpose to then sue Tesla?
Nevermind, I know the answer...
1 second before crash autopilot disconnects, so you are fully responsible...
Not to mention you need to focus on autopilot driving according to tesla, which makes autopilot pointless.
It works well, until it doesn't. That first part lulls people into complacency. I rented a Kia last year that had automatic cruise control and lane keep assist and it kept me on the road far past when I should have pulled over and taken a nap from being sleep deprived after a redeye flight. Dangerous? Yes. Skill issue? Maybe. What I took away from the experience is that it is frighteningly easy to get used to a thing "just working" and forget about its limitations when it is convenient. I also learned that I do not want lane keep assist or automatic cruise control in my personal car.
This is basically automation bias you’re describing and it’s what scares the hell out of me with these “FSD” teslas on the road.
Even if you were able to keep constantly alert during the 99% of the time where this works (which I think is close to humanly impossible) why would you want a system that doesn’t offload you at all? The only value of this system is if people ignore the limitations and allow themselves to zone out - the rest of us are at risk when it goes wrong!
This is crazy, I was in a parking lot yesterday and saw someone have their Tesla driver right up to them to pick them up in the parking lot with no driver inside. Kind of pissed me off I was so near in the same parking lot that was operating on its own, with my wife and nieces. I know Elon Musk wouldn't give one fuck about me if his dumbass machine ran me or mine right over
They have had that capability for at least 7 years now so if it makes you feel any better, it’s been getting tested for a while. Interesting side note, if the car does fuck up and damage another car or injure someone, the TOS says that the owner of the vehicle is liable and Tesla has no culpability.
After almost getting hit twice by a driven Tesla while walking in a lot, the guy parked it in a handicap spot with no placard and speed walked into the store. Upon exit from a different door, the driver had it drive itself to him. I'm miffed i missed my chance to fuck with it because I didn't know what was going on. I was waiting, debating calling police for the placard issue (given there were multiple open spaces nearby). I decided to not get involved and drove in front of the tesla to exit. Weird, I noted, seeing the drl bar and left blinker on. Turns out, it was waiting it's turn to leave autonomously.
Fuck that guy. DoorDash vibe. 150ft walk.
I'm not a fan of Elon or Tesla, just for the record. So I hate to actually be the one defending them. But I'm guessing on the same exact day about 12 people drove through their garage doors, NOT in Teslas.
Yeah, but there are more than 100x other cars on the road. And this one is automated. And this was a stupid mistake if true.
I mean, they're probably lying about it being on autopilot, they just pushed the wrong pedal or something. That said, I drive an electric van at work and it wouldn't let me bump into something if I tried.
Probably, but it might not be and that is the only relevant part. So until we know for sure it's guesswork.
That's bad that the car's software confused a closed garage door for a kid.
Later he was fined by the HOA because the garage door being open since 20 minutes
The sentence structure that people from different non-english-speaking countries use is really interesting.
You couldn't pay me to drive a Tesla, and that's doubly true for Tesla on "autopilot".
The reporting states the driving mode in question was Tesla's "autopilot system," instead of the proper Autopilot, which is Tesla's less advanced driving system. Full Self-Driving (Supervised) is Tesla's more capable feature, although its name is a misnomer, since it's not capable of fully driving itself and requires constant supervision.
I feel like this section needs a rewrite. What is the distinction they're drawing between "Tesla's 'autopilot system'" and "Autopilot"?
It's hard to describe these modes because Tesla purposefully blurs and obfuscates what they actually can/cannot do (like giving them names that are basically synonyms.) Typical confuseopoly strategy.
This is why AI shouldn't be making any management decisions
that tech at IBM all those years ago had it right the whole time
Why is this person called a driver?
