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[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 333 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wow. It's almost like we've been warning for years that putting backdoors into software, systems, and encryption would allow nefarious parties to exploit them.

[–] gaiussabinus@lemmy.world 141 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Think about the children . It will make it easier for police to access instead of doing actual police work and getting a warrant.

[–] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well yeah but then they'd have to expand the hiring pool beyond the dumbest jock you knew in high school and those people tend to balk at doing fascism so...

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 year ago

Hey, be fair! They also hire the three bullies who hung out by the bleachers smoking cigarettes.

[–] Lennny@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Sorry, I only think of children during school shootings, it's easier that way.

you don't want police to think about children, or atleast I don't.

[–] BMTea@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The FBI is the nefarious party lol

[–] DogWater@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Waco intensifies

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 149 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

~~China~~ USA hacked Verizon, AT&T and Lumen then left the door open for anybody else

[–] almost1337@lemm.ee 67 points 1 year ago

If the door exists, then it can be opened

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And this is why the NSA is supposed to close exploits rather than harvest them for surveillance.

This is why surveillance backdoors are always bad, and you can't math around that.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Can't weasel around math you mean? They don't think they can, it's collateral damage.

[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 127 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What?? But the FBI called dibs on that backdoor! /s

It's almost like putting backdoors into software as a whole is a bad idea cause anyone who knows of it can use it, not just "tHe GoOd GuYs"

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

cause anyone who knows of it can use it

…and the ones who don't know of it will one day become the ones who know

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 73 points 1 year ago

Omg the back doors work for anyone who can gain access to them??? Shocked-pikachu.jpg

[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 69 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This article is getting saved, for the next time some idiot proposes 'lawful backdoors', which will inevitably happen.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nervously glances at TPM and TSA approved locks.

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I still love the fact that those TSA keys are all available online as 3D files and likely as metal as well

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 4 points 1 year ago

I know for a fact you can get a metal set for a few dollars plus shipping.

[–] anzo@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Those locks are kinda optional. And luggage is way less important than all of one's communication ; imho.

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago

Oh absolutely, but it does do something that I'm not sure people realize: it normalizes the idea of a government agent holding the keys to all of your stuff.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The bad part is when people take a luggage lock and use it for their Gym locker, or the locker at the pool. Somewhere that really REALLY shouldn't be using a weak lock with a readily available master key.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I just went and looked, set of multiple TSA master keys for sale online, numbered with which ones they are the master keys for.

[–] Amius@pawb.social 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I remember them trying to get Apple to put in a back door as well

[–] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Only Apple can use that data for profit! Now the Alphabet agencies just buy that data from brokers..... I just realized how funny the parent company to Google name change is.

Dang, you're right! It's like noticing the arrow in fedex

[–] LunchMoneyThief@links.hackliberty.org 39 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Article author struggles with clean links

https://www.wsj.com/tech/cybersecurity/u-s-wiretap-systems-targeted-in-china-linked-hack btw

The pioneers of this dirty business were overwhelmingly founded by ex-Israeli signals intelligence personnel,

That's interesting. Must be a coincidence.

and related Clinton-era initiatives, like the failed Clipper Chip program, which would have put a spy chip in every computer, and, eventually, every phone and gadget:

"Don't worry, guys we tried to backdoor all devices but failed, see?"

Meanwhile, Intel ME, AMD "Secure Processor", and ARM "TrustZone":

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

That’s interesting. Must be a coincidence.

Kinda coincides in time with Israel becoming less of a normal West-aligned state and more of a spoiled child whom everyone pats, not very well-behaving at that.

Though TBH this was the case under Reagan too. It's just that there's difference between support for Israel and Israel's penetration back.

[–] dan@upvote.au 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That link is a 404 for me.

[–] betabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

Same. The OP article is interesting, but was hoping for more than a few wiki links of past instances. Is there more verifiable evidence for this instance? Don't doubt the claim, just curious.

[–] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Dawg

Edit: y'all no fun

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think you should watch this Great Video by CCC,de on Intel ME it has some great facts and information on the deal with IntelME without all the fearmongering and conspiracy theories other videos and blogs usually pump out.

[–] aluminium@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Can't buy Huawei Networking gear, if we get hacked it has the be through our own backdoor.

[–] Laberpferd@sueden.social 2 points 1 year ago

@db0 works as intended

[–] Korkki@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

nice, that'll tech them.