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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 186 points 1 month ago (3 children)

So...

Members of the government are seizing private companies for themselves?

Isn't that why we can't have universal healthcare or free education?

Because the slippery slope would lead to the government seizing private property?

Why are we skipping the good parts?

[–] IllNess@infosec.pub 66 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is to help Elon Musk control TikTok without actually having to buy all of it.

The government share are going to be non-voting shares.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Why shouldn't the taxpayer subsidize another company of this grifter?

[–] banghida@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because that's what's been going on for a while now?

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 13 points 1 month ago

Exactly right, fuck the plebs.

No health care, no maternity leave... We got no money for that.

But we got money to make President Musl rich!

[–] IllNess@infosec.pub 5 points 1 month ago

Because he is the puppet master.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Civil forfeiture has existed for decades. Taking property for themselves hasn't been the problem.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 9 points 1 month ago

Shares are special type of property in this country

Government can seize your house for public good... But never owners shares in his grift!

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago

Oh, but it's fine when the government is made up of corporatists.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 82 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

The media really moved swiftly back into "Stop the fucking presses, Donald Trump just sneezed twice in a row" status

Did anyone expect anything less? Trump was great for their profits.

[–] dmtalon@infosec.pub 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

boost app for Lemmy has a nice word filter and trump has been added. I'm already exhausted. I wish there was an easy way to word block on the web, since I use that more than my phone. Clearly evident, I'm on 'web' now

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've thought about adding him as a filter but I'm afraid I'd stop getting most US news. Even if I don't want to have any discussions about him, plenty of policy changes and laws are going to be a result of his actions and I will need/want to know about them.

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[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Voyager works as a web app and PWA. It has keyword filtering.

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[–] DigDoug@lemmy.world 68 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"Tiktok is a tool for Chinese propaganda, but we'd prefer if it were a tool for American propaganda instead."

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 month ago

The fact that they only targeted Tiktok already shows their motives. They claim that Tiktok is a powerful tool for data collection and propaganda. They claim that's too dangerous to leave in the hands of China.

However, all the other social media companies (Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, etc) are all equally as powerful. There's only one difference between them: who controls the propaganda.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 9 points 4 weeks ago

Remember, Zucc was a big sponsor of the TikTok ban!

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I remember when President Obama suggested investing in Solyndra in order to save it and stop China from overtaking the energy market and Republican blew their lid but I guess they'll be ok with wasting billions nationalizing a terrible social media app linked to multiple deaths of kids.

[–] Gold_E_Lox@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

past political motives and descisions are dead, now is the Trump era.

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[–] joshhsoj1902@lemmy.ca 36 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

So if I'm following this correctly. The US government gave TikTok a year to sell their US operations, they did not and were blocked. Trump came in and gave them a 3 month grace period, to allow them the opportunity to sell their US operations again...

Why does he expect this is going to go differently? TikTok already showed they would rather go dark than sell.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 11 points 4 weeks ago

He's an idiot.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 month ago
[–] ploot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 month ago

We all saw this coming from a mile off.

[–] Viri4thus@feddit.org 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

All of this because some dude in the country with more guns per capita in the world, can't shoot for shit.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 7 points 1 month ago

And because almost 400 million other people didn't even try.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] dance_ninja@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Yup you called it.

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Wow, this is unfolding WAY faster than I thought it would

[–] corroded@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This may be going off on a tangent, but it seems appropriate here. I am sick and tired of hearing about every little minutia of clickbait bullshit related to Trump. If Musk wants to buy and tank TikTok, great. I don't give a fuck one way or another. Trump isn't buying TikTok, and I truly don't give a shit what his opinion is on it.

I want to stay aware of current events in my country. If the president signs an executive order, I want to hear about it. I don't want to hear about what his friends are doing. I couldn't care less who made his wife's hat. I'd rather watch paint dry than a video of him and his wife dancing. I hate that I know he consumes McDonald's slop and Diet Coke in the oval office.

People argue about how news outlets are biased right or left. The real problem is that news outlets are just entertainment outlets, and not legitimate journalism. I don't care if you're reading Fox News or CNN; you're still going to wade through a river of worthless celebrity worship before you actually find something of substance. Scroll down far enough, and you won't be reading about Trump any more. Instead, you'll be reading about which actors are fucking each other and the latest and "this year's hottest budget-friendly Temu styles that are now made of only slightly toxic synthetic fibers." If you're lucky, you might find an article about how some random nobody met another random nobody on vacation and got married. Good for them. I'm glad they're happy. I still don't give a shit.

[–] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

While I agree with the sentiment, I'd say this qualifies as news. Elons not buying shake shack, he's buying a social media platform with a very opaque algorithm that has the power to influence a large chunk of the American public. Even if he tanks it, twitter has shown that through network and data ownership combined with sheer inertia many people will remain on an app even after its been revealed to have its thumb on the scale for one side.

[–] evergreen@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

In addition to that, they're suggesting a government stake, which likely means using taxpayer money to help him subsidize it. Hmm. Where have we seen that before?

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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

I mean, this was probably the point from the beginning. I'm sure this has been their plan since they saw that he could turn a place like Twitter into a propaganda machine in just under a year. I'm probably just grasping at straws here, but it seems pretty sus that the TikTok ban only started gaining traction around the time Elmo turned Twitter into a shit hole.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Oh so they do wanna kill TikTok.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 month ago

They want to enrich the in-crowd and cement complete media control of the US.

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago

It's a Good Thing we don't have People who can MASSIVELY PROFIT OFF THIS making Decisions in Government!

[–] concrete_baby@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago

Why would China want to sell the lucrative secret TikTok algorithm to the US government?

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't think he realizes how problematic it would be for the government to have a stake in any company that actively removes posts. Suddenly they're forced to allow far more speech than they previously did.

[–] cnirrad@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, but who's going to enforce that?

[–] aluminium@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Goverment stake, isn't that communism?

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[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Two great manipulators in concert - Ouverture:

[–] vodkasolution@feddit.it 5 points 1 month ago

I'd love to see TiXToX

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Government stake in TikTok! You think he can't be dumber. And yet, he surprises you every day.

[–] BraveLittleToaster@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

because he did such a great job with twitter

[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well, depending on how you see it, he definitely did

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Depends on how you look at it.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

People really have hard time understanding that jsut because plebs get fucked, it doesn't mean it is not a W for the owner class lol

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[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

... Unfortunately yes. He just translated money into power

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

If they nationalize it, even partially, they’re not gonna be able claim any loopholes on government censorship by letting third party platforms do the dirty work.

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