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Image alt text: An image of Steam's top 10 best-selling games at the time of posting, three of which are marked as "prepurchase"

I checked the Steam stats and noticed that in the top 10 best selling games by revenue, there's three games that aren't even out yet. If we ignore the Steam Deck and f2p games, it's three out of four games. They have also been in the top 100 for 4, 6, and 8 weeks respectively, so people just keep on buying them. I would love to know why people keep doing this, as the idea of pre-ordering is that there is a physical copy of a game available for you on release, but this is not a concern with digital items. So after so many games lately being utterly broken on release, why do people not wait until launch reviews to buy the game? If you touch a hot stove and get burned multiple times, when does one learn?

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 25 minutes ago* (last edited 25 minutes ago)

No.

Especially the big studio games.

They almost always go on sale 3-6 months past release, and they’ve been patched at least once.

You get a better, cheaper game.

[–] Slayan@lemmy.ca 2 points 54 minutes ago

Last game i pre-ordered was fallout 4 hahahaha. So no i don't pre-order anymore. I even waited for a discount on baldur's gate 3 before buying it, that was a feat of it's own.

[–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 1 points 1 hour ago

Never. Apart from the pre-order bonuses that I refuse to accept there's really no reason to. The game's still there after I have seen the reviews. I have fast internet and a fast SSD, so even if I could pre-download that would realistically only save me an hour or something even for the largest games.

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 4 points 6 hours ago

I would have pre-ordered Civ7, but then they announced it has Denuvo so now instead of pre-ordering I'm just not going to buy it at all.

Fuck denuvo and fuck corporations who think their customers should just bend over and accept whatever bullshit they offer for the "privilege" of playing their game.

There is so much good indie gaming content these days, we don't need these abusive mega-corp games.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 hours ago

I pre-ordered No Man's Sky and that was the first and last time I pre-ordered anything.

Beyond the painful lesson, pre-ordering is just a large risk that you're going to get a crap game - which is doubly unpleasant because you've basically paid good money to buy yourself a feeling of frustration and the experience of having been scammed - and all that you gain from pre-ordering a digital game is at best being able to play the exact same game a few minutes or maybe hours earlier than if you bought it on day 1, which is a "gain" not worth taking on that risk.

This is even more so in this day and age of totally overhyped bullshit and industry reviews being either pretty much paid for or done against beta versions hence not mentioning software problems such as bugs and slowness.

In fact I would even advise against buying a game on the first week or month for similar reasons - you want to reduce the risk of wasting your money and of frustration, by waiting for others to have played it and user reviews to come out and by buying later you'll probably going to end up with a better version of the game because the worst post-release bugs will have started being patched.

You could say that from the point of view of the buyer, it doesn't make business sense to pre-ordered a digital good for which there is no scarcity.

[–] drasglaf@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago

I stopped pre-ordering games long ago. THhe last 3 I ever pre-ordered were Shenmue 3, No Man's Sky and Cyberpunk 2077. The all had a disastrous launch to some degree, and I said never again. I also pre-ordered Vampire: The Masquerade 2, but I cancelled it years ago. The last physical game I bought was Metal Gear Solid V, and it was a DVD with a fucking Steam installer inside.

Never again.

[–] LouNeko@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Only Capcom games. Their demos give you a pretty good idea of what the fully game is going to be and are usually even improved upon. So preordering is mostly a safe bet. Plus you get some early access goodies (which you can also get after release for some extra shmeckles).

Capcom feels like one of the only multiplatform devs that are actually still making games for gamers not for shareholders.

[–] LaserTurboShark69@sh.itjust.works 1 points 34 minutes ago

I agree with this take. MH Wilds will be my first prepurchase since RE4. The RE4 demo blew my mind and the Wilds beta had me hooked.

[–] threshold_dweller@lemmy.today 5 points 16 hours ago

Never. I only rarely buy a game within a year of release. Too fucking many good cheap or free games to justify paying msrp before it even gets reviews.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

Nope, not a single reason to do so.

Preorder bonuses are worthless and are always available as dlc later on.

[–] Lianodel@ttrpg.network 7 points 19 hours ago

As a rule, no, but I'll make some rare exceptions.

It has to be a small studio, I have to be pretty sure I'll like their next game, and I have to have enjoyed their past game enough that it's worth throwing them a few extra bucks.

For instance, I'm going to pre-order Slay the Spire 2.

  • Mega Crit is an indie studio.

  • I thought StS1 was exquisite, so I'm optimistic about a sequel from the same people.

  • I playes StS1 for hundreds of hours, so even if the sequel is a whiff, I'd have got my money's worth from them.

Similar goes for The Haunted Chocolatier, since I played the heck out of Stardew Valley.

[–] MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

Rarely. I don't think I ever have two years in a row.

Usually only if I'm very sure it's a game I will get a lot of playtime out of due to past titles. For instance, I did pre-order Civ 7 because prior Civs have been the best hours-enjoyed-per-dollar investments I've ever made. No exaggeration, even accounting for DLCs I bought at full price.

[–] russjr08@bitforged.space 8 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

These days? No.

I used to when I had very crappy internet speeds, but these days I have a gigabit connection - and I swear the decryption process takes longer than it is to just download the game right after release in an unencrypted state.

And even back then I was very picky on pre-orders. I honestly couldn't even tell you what was the last one I pre-ordered.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 4 points 21 hours ago

oh man I forgot about this. preload used to be such a big selling point but now it only takes a few minutes to download most games.

[–] kugmo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 17 hours ago

no i have fast internet so if i do buy a massive bloated game i can wait 20 minutes before playing it, or buy it the day of then remote download with the steam mobile app

[–] Waldschrat@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

I very rarely ever did. And when I did I made sure I trusted the studio and knew enough. But even with this preparation I was burned most of the time preordering. 

Nowadays I notice a game I like and I wait for 1-3 years, then pick it up DRM free, with all the extensions and fully patched for oftentimes 15€ or so.

[–] CouncilOfFriends@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I don't think digital pre-orders even include banking functionality. I wouldn't know because I lack the nerd cred of ever pre-ordering a game

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 51 points 1 day ago

Never preorder.

[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 39 points 1 day ago (3 children)

No. I'm doing the opposite.

I'm currently playing PS4 games I have never played before.

You get them on ebay for like $10.

Can't wait to play PS5 games in 5 years... 🙃

[–] cod@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago

Sounds like you should join us over on !patientgamers@sh.itjust.works

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago

Can't wait to play PS5 games in 5 years...

All six of them.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago

If there is a game that i'll definitely buy on launch and there is some real benefit for pre ordering, i might do it. But even then i'll wait for the last few hours and "pre-order" then. If there is no benefit for me, why should i tell the company "i dont care about quality of your game, i'll pay anyway". Because that is how the ones making decisions will see pre order.

[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

Used to be I could preload games I prepurchase and would absolutely be doing that still, but that's pretty much never on offer anymore so I don't prepurchase even games I'm 100% certain I'll be getting.

[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Hissssss 🐍

Don't preorder, what the hell are you people thinking?!

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yeah I’ll pre order any game that I plan on buying. There’s no practical reason not to.

[–] BlueMagma@sh.itjust.works 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

This is the first comment I see that actually answers the question. Why on earth are people down voting is beyond me..

Now though, I'd love to get more details about the thought process as I myself never preorder anything ?

Edit : I've seen your answers to other comments, I guess it makes sense, all good reasons

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

Yeah people avoid pre ordering because they don’t want to signal to the publishers support for a game before they know it’ll be good. And that’s a perfectly valid reason not to pre order. But it’s also the only reason not to pre order, and it’s more political than practical.

[–] junkthief@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Interesting. I can’t see any practical reason TO preorder. Are they going to run out of digital copies? Am I going to forget to buy it? I’d rather wait for reviews and a couple patches.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)
  • You get content only available if you pre order
  • You get early access to the game
  • You get some amount of later expansion content for free
  • you can preload the game so when it releases, you can just begin playing it.

There are lots of practical reasons TO preorder something, thought it’s not always all of those things. And you can both preorder something and “Wait for reviews” because the vast majority of the time, reviews release before a game releases.

For example, Civ 7 comes out on the 11th, if you pre order you get the benefit of getting to play it on the 6th, and the reviews for it all released today, the 3rd. That means I’ll know today if the game sucks and I can just… cancel my preorder if I wanted to. Then in a couple days I get to play the game early, so in case the reviews were all paid for I get to see for myself if I don’t like the game, and if I don’t like it, I can cancel my pre order.

In case I don’t cancel my pre order, I also save $10 on Civ packs I would otherwise be paying for. If I waited for release day to buy it, I’d lose out on the benefits of pre ordering, but gain nothing.

[–] junkthief@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

None of those reasons sound especially practical to me, but I may be in the minority. I’d rather wait and see that the game is stable and if I really want the extra content I’ll get it later (I’m patient).

I worry that pre ordering may send a message to publishers that a game doesn’t need to be good or even finished

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

They are all objectively practical, every single one. They are upsides without a downside. That being said, it’s ultimately your choice whether you choose practicality over the morals of the thing. If you want to choose not to preorder something just to send a message, I get it.

They are all objectively practical

Exactly, both are completely valid decisions with different base assumptions. It makes sense to pre-order if having that content available sooner is valuable for you, because you can usually get a refund if the game sucks on launch. It makes sense to wait if you want to send a message, or if you're okay waiting a bit (i.e. you have more important uses of that money).

I'm personally 100% okay with waiting months to years for a game to stabilize and reach what I think is a good value. I also remember pre-ordering a physical copy of a console game years ago because having it a little sooner had value for me (got it at midnight or whatever, which was only available for pre-orders), and the same applies to digital sales.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What if the game launches and you find out everyone is saying it is incomplete, doesn't run properly, and is crashing their consoles over and over?

That would be the practical reason I would think of for not just outright purchasing something that hasn't come out

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

That kind of thing would likely be made known through reviews that come out a few days to a week before release in which case you could just cancel your preorder. And even if they didn’t, Steam’s refund policy doesn’t care if you preordered or not, you can get a refund either way.

If it’s a console game and the problem is bad enough that it’s crashing consoles, even with refund policies as restrictive as Sony’s, they will issue refunds in cases like that, as we’ve seen a lot of in the past couple years.

The only actual negative scenario that’s left is you play it and you just don’t like it, and you’re not on PC so you can’t get a refund. But not preordering a game doesn’t really solve that problem. If you buy a game on the PS store two weeks after release and it turns out you don’t like the game you’re no better off than if you pre ordered it and didn’t like it. Generally people don’t pre order games that they’re not sure they’re even going to like.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 22 hours ago

Once, Diablo 3. I figured it could not miss. It missed.

[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 1 points 19 hours ago

I bought a pre-purchase once, and it was for Bloodstained.

Not only was I excited to play a new Metroidvania from the guy who made the best Metroidvania, but the price in my local currency was 1:1 to the dollar. I knew that this price was wrong and that it might go up after release. And I was right, the price increased.

Totally worth it and the game was amazing at launch.

[–] Verqix@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

With 14 days after release and 2 hours of playtime you can still refund. Maybe some just see it as the current day demo? Quite easy to see if it runs well and what the playability and average response is within that time frame. Like a wishlist that reserves the cash in advance.

[–] squid_slime@lemm.ee 2 points 23 hours ago

Only twice and felt foolish after release. Stalker 2 was selling below pre order price on a trustworthy key site. And cyberpunk, not sure why I did that one.

[–] TokenEffort@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Only games I'm super confident I'll love. Never got screwed over.

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[–] Betazed@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

For me it really depends on the game, the studio, and the publisher. I preordered Firmament because Cyan has a good history. I might also pre-order a digital game if I think a game is particularly novel, or if I think I'm going to like it pretty much regardless of the reviews (e.g. I like the franchise it's from/ties into), the last reason is if there's some kind of in-game incentive to do so (e.g. pre-order and you get some in game minor boost/cosmetic/whatever) but that's really only a minor consideration.

[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 1 points 20 hours ago

You haven't been burned then?

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago

Never because I'm cheap and also I don't want to pay a premium for a buggy unoptimized experience. Even when I had the game pass trial I didn't play games day 1, since games needed several patches to be acceptable.

[–] kazerniel@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

I only pre-order Guild Wars 2 expansions, as it's my favourite game and I know that whatever I get, I'll feel that it was worth the money for the thousands of hours of fun I've got out of that game :)

But I wouldn't preorder anything else - I have a massive Steam backlog, and a few years after release I can get the properly finished, patched version of games with all the expansions for a fraction of the price (+ all the mods and community resources that had time to develop and mature). Last year I got Witcher 3 for like 90% off lol. No need to rush, there are so many older games I haven't played yet...

Btw I was a r/patientgamers member for years, I see that they also have a community on Lemmy :) https://sh.itjust.works/c/patientgamers

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