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The onrushing AI era was supposed to create boom times for great gadgets. Not long ago, analysts were predicting that Apple Intelligence would start a “supercycle” of smartphone upgrades, with tons of new AI features compelling people to buy them. Amazon and Google and others were explaining how their ecosystems of devices would make computing seamless, natural, and personal. Startups were flooding the market with ChatGPT-powered gadgets, so you’d never be out of touch. AI was going to make every gadget great, and every gadget was going to change to embrace the AI world.

This whole promise hinged on the idea that Siri, Alexa, Gemini, ChatGPT, and other chatbots had gotten so good, they’d change how we do everything. Typing and tapping would soon be passé, all replaced by multimodal, omnipresent AI helpers. You wouldn’t need to do things yourself; you’d just tell your assistant what you need, and it would tap into the whole world of apps and information to do it for you. Tech companies large and small have been betting on virtual assistants for more than a decade, to little avail. But this new generation of AI was going to change things.

There was just one problem with the whole theory: the tech still doesn’t work. Chatbots may be fun to talk to and an occasionally useful replacement for Google, but truly game-changing virtual assistants are nowhere close to ready. And without them, the gadget revolution we were promised has utterly failed to materialize.

In the meantime, the tech industry allowed itself to be so distracted by these shiny language models that it basically stopped trying to make otherwise good gadgets. Some companies have more or less stopped making new things altogether, waiting for AI to be good enough before it ships. Others have resorted to shipping more iterative, less interesting upgrades because they have run out of ideas other than “put AI in it.” That has made the post-ChatGPT product cycle bland and boring, in a moment that could otherwise have been incredibly exciting. AI isn’t good enough, and it’s dragging everything else down with it.

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[–] tacobellhop@midwest.social 12 points 10 hours ago

The this isn’t on topic necessarily but if you wanna know what they are betting on for ai look into contentcyborg.ai

They wanna flood the internet with fake people, opinions, engagement etc. This creates a feedback loop of marketing budgets flooding social media for the engagement frenzy and creating ideological Dutch disease where anything will be said for a buck. We’re already there obviously culture wise, but now we’re offshoring fake souls I guess.

[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 6 points 8 hours ago

I mean…. Anyone could have told you that.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 19 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

This whole promise hinged on the idea that Siri, Alexa, Gemini, ChatGPT, and other chatbots had gotten so good, they’d change how we do everything. Typing and tapping would soon be passé, all replaced by multimodal, omnipresent AI helpers. You wouldn’t need to do things yourself; you’d just tell your assistant what you need, and it would tap into the whole world of apps and information to do it for you. Tech companies large and small have been betting on virtual assistants for more than a decade, to little avail. But this new generation of AI was going to change things.

I have never and will never interact with my phone by speaking to it and I don't want to be around other people who are doing that. The beauty of a touch screen and buttons is you can silently operate the device. Software can always be updated. They should be focusing on hardware features if they want to be innovative. Maybe they could start by adding back some of the shit they've removed.

[–] mihaella@feddit.uk 14 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

the bar is so low that even a lean secure android OS without bloatware would be revolutionary.

[–] BOFH@feddit.uk 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

I agree but I suspect that the problem is that people have different opinions on where the line is on that. Presumably somebody, somewhere actually plays that stupid candy crush thing on Windows for example. It’s probably a ‘valuable service’ for it to be pre installed for them.

I kinda hate them but they’re allowed to like it.

[–] mihaella@feddit.uk 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I could live with pre installed apps as long as they can be removed... i remember having useless apps like google music, youtube, weird browsers and other random apps that could not be removed, I could only uninstall the updates but the base version would remain... That stuff is predatory if i do not use them why should i be forced to have them on my phone.

[–] BOFH@feddit.uk 1 points 8 hours ago

Yup. I remember when the iPhone first appeared, my first one was the 3GS and they had so much pre-installed nonsense. It’s very frustrating.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

You wouldn’t need to do things yourself; you’d just tell your assistant what you need, and it would tap into the whole world of apps and information to do it for you.

Ah, the promise made by every futurist ever.

They’re always wrong. New inventions are used to unemploy people, insert themselves between you and what you want to extract money, or to try to sell you something.

Typing and tapping would soon be passé,

The tech certainly isn't ready for this. My voice input to chatgpt gets automatically translated into Welsh.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 11 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

This just reminds me of the blockchain/NFT craze. NFT is stupid as shit but blockchain has its uses, just like LLMs. I refuse to call it AI because it’s not, it’s a language generator. A particularly expensive language generator that cost a lot of in terms of resources but still just a language generator. It’s not all that different from the crypto craze, especially if you want a GPU for other things.

[–] Obelix@feddit.org 1 points 10 hours ago

I use LLMs for some things and they are great, but to be honest, I haven't seen any real world usage of blockchains besides cryptocurrencies and NFTs.

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Some More News had the right take on this: all these companies just dumped (either in investment or development) (hundreds of) billions of dollars into AI development.

The problem is, we're still 10-15 years away from AI being actually useful in gadgets and stuff. But these companies want to get paid now, so they're shoving the cheapest, shittiest "functional" AI onto the market just to try and recoup some losses. And it's painfully apparent it isn't working.

[–] Jimius@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Just look at how ppl use their smart speakers. They ask it to set timers or ask for the weather. AI will be the norm once the benefit is obvious to everyone. When I can trust my AI with my credit card info and allow it to purchase stuff for me. Right now AI is basically a self-organizing dictionary which is often confidently incorrect. Not once has GPT told me it didn't know something.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I asked chatGPT about a quote from Iain Banks - The Player of Games. It claims not to know about it's contents except for the cover blurb. Bullshit.

I fed it a detail and it suddenly remembered.

They must have programmed chatgpt to deny that it has read copyright works.

Deepseek had no such qualms. It couldn't give an exact quote but it did give what it called an approximation.

[–] Jimius@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 hours ago

As a total aside: The baader-meinhof phenomenon at play. Just yesterday I was talking about Lain Banks because his work was quoted in a video game. And here he shows up again.

[–] OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Generations* Let's not forget we produce 3 or 4 models of phones a year, per manufacturer. That's an alarming planet amount of E-waste and we don't have the raw materials to keep up this pace forever.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 9 points 13 hours ago

And I still can't find a phone that has a replaceable battery, proper IP rating, and doesn't cost an arm and a leg, alternatively, costs thrice as much as the potato display and CPU would warrant. You can get two of the things, but not all three. I won't even begin to speak of having an unlocked bootloader, or, while having the rest in place, also a flush camera. FFS I'd be fine with no camera I just don't want a hump. I'd be fine with 720p, it's a tiny screen after all, but good contrast and not 8k doesn't seem to be a thing that companies think anyone would be interested it.

Stop fucking innovating, just apply lessons already learned. Design a phone with the mindset of designing a bottle opener.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 4 points 15 hours ago

Depends on what you mean by forever. Who knows what tomorrow brings. We could be smashed back to the stone age, and effectively extinct, sometime next week.

[–] oakey66@lemmy.world 119 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I would argue that they moved to LLMs because they had run out of ideas on actually improving cellphones. It wasn't that they were distracted by them. They are trying to distract us because they need to cell new phones every year and nothing they've come up with is really justifying shelling out $1200 for a phone that's virtually the same as the previous 3-5 iterations.

[–] tbh@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 hours ago

Weird. Couldn't they ask AI what features to develop next based on brand reputation, time and resources?

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 66 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This “new phone every year” is the worst consumer crapfest we have going. AI features feel like clutching at straws when seemingly everyone hates the battery life on every single phone. Slap a larger battery in there? Well now you get shit AI that burns whatever extra capacity was gained. I can’t name a single quality on an iPhone model from the last 6 years that I truly wanted, other than the size of my 13 mini. It works fine and it fits in my pocket. Now make one that stays on for a full 24 hours and doesn’t need a battery replacement every 2 years.

[–] mitrosus@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Blame the isheep for purchasing every crap offered.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 14 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

There are plenty on Android as well and they also existed before smartphones.

[–] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Me breathing a sigh of relief for still using my S10.

It makes calls, send texts and I can read Lemmy with the app. What more do I need?

[–] Weirdfish@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Love my S8, though there are apps I can't run anymore because of how old the OS is.

Still, I'm keeping it till it dies.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 11 hours ago

LGV20 gang. I dread the day that my work apps stop working because the android version is too old.

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[–] Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works 62 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Honestly yeah, none of the crap being made right now is going to appear relevant in the future, just like 3d tvs

[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

3d tvs is my favorite analogy. Easiest way to illustrate the bubble of hype.

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[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've heard it put very well that AI is either having a Napster moment in which case we will not recognise the world 10 years from now, or it's having an iPhone moment and it will get marginally better at best but is essentially in it's final form.

I personally think it's more like 3D movies and in 20 years when it comes back around we'll look at this crap like it was Red and Blue glasses.

[–] DaGeek247@fedia.io 24 points 1 day ago (15 children)

I think it's iphone stage. We've had predictive text in some form or other for a long time now. But that's just LLMs. Can't speak for the image/video generators, but I expect those will become another tool in the box that gets better but does the same thing.

I just can't see a whole lot of improvement in these products making any changes top how we use them already.

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[–] Pregnenolone@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I’m curious as to what the opinion of AI will be in 10 years

[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Blockchain 10 years ago was hyped like AI now.

Blockchain is now used by the US president to make money in barely legal ways.

That’s not a good outlook.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm betting the same opinion we have today about 3D TVs

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 9 hours ago

Vr, crypto

All good tech but somehow it didn't land for various reasons. But root chase excessive hype and Nada on actual product delivery...

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Probably the same as we have now, "be neat if and when it eventually arrives".

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I haven't gotten anything of use from Apple Intelligence. Even just using it is difficult, and Siri is possibly dumber than she was before.

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