Epic reduce their cut to 0% for the first $1 million in revenue for devs on the Epic Games Store : games

[–] notgivingmynametoamachine@lemmy.world 37 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Because they have to, because their store is based in bribing developers for artificial exclusivity in an attempt to hurt Valve for proving that Pig Swiney was a moron a decade ago when he said PC gaming was dead.

This is all a vain attempt by a man child to get back at Gabe, and it’s abso fucking lutely a hilarious delight what an abject failure it all is.

Garbage store with no customer services struggles and burns money, because that’s what’s lazy customer fucking cash grabs should do - burn. Fuck epic, fuck Swiney, and fuck you if you defend them.

[–] Amanduh@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Care to elaborate further on specific events or even just link some articles for a lazy bones like me?

(I only get free games from epic and then never play them)

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[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago

Cool

Epic Games store and Tim Sweeney are both still peices of shit.

[–] MSids@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I can't wait to get more games on my Epic deck, oh wait it was Valve who pioneered an incredible platform that can play AAA games on a handheld running Linux and made compatibility a reality for thousands of games.

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They didn't pioneer it, companies like GPD did. Not shitting in the Steam Deck, love that thing. Just wanting to get the facts straight.

[–] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 days ago

I think it still counts, due to all the work they did on the software side.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

100% of $0 is still $0.

I'll spend my money on platforms that have proven to respect their customers.

[–] FilthyHookerSpit@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (5 children)

What's epics problem? I only log in to get free games but I think competition should work out better for the consumer

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

They could literally just copy steam, add their "we take less of a cut" thing, and be in a good place.

Instead, using their storefront sucks, their customer service sucks, they lack features you'd expect of a major platform, and they're pretentious dicks about it. Instead of fixing these obvious problems, they're bribing devs for exclusivity, pumping their marketing with bullshit, and litigating apple over their app store (actually that last one is kinda great). The epic store today would be competition to steam if steam was still as it was 20 years ago when everyone hated steam.

[–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 days ago

Competition is usually always a good thing, but sadly no launcher has ever brought anything new to the table that Steam hasn't already been doing (they usually just bring headaches).

Epic doesn't want to compete fairly (by providing a great user experience, etc). They want to compete by paying for exclusives & bribing users with free games. Obviously this hasn't worked because they are loweri g fees, likely to try to get the growth they just aren't seeing.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago

For the consumer multiple platforms sucks. There's already competition for selling steam keys as well. Epic doesn't want to pay other platforms for anything fortnite, anything else they do is to justify why they shouldn't have to pay like every one else.

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[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 18 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Good for them, but until EGS starts being more pro- consumer, I'm not spending a cent there

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 6 days ago

even if they do become pro-consumer you shouldn't spend there. because it'd be a temporary affair and soon as they win market share from steam it'll disappear.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 6 days ago

At least Valve takes some of the money that they make from Steam and use it for Steam. You cant run an entire gaming platform based on developers alone, you also need to make it at least somewhat bearable for consumers.

[–] idriss@lemm.ee 13 points 6 days ago (2 children)

It s a good start ngl.

What about taking a different route altogether and not be greedy? what about charging a flat fee (your costs plus some profits to run the infrastructure like yearly or monthly). What about not being evil?

There is a huge business opportunity IMO to do just that. Have a store, charge a flat fee, add whatever percentage wire transfers take (1-3%). You make money, you out-compete everyone and you are the good guy.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That would require having a platform worth something. Currently, they sank millions into the community - but in the wrong way. The client still lacks basic features and yet they spend money to buy exclusivity.

Fuck them, they don't deserve shit - praise or money.

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[+] easily3667@lemmus.org 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (9 children)

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[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I am against monopolistic competition practices and that includes exclusivity deals and predatory pricing.

And as far as I know, Epic does this more than Valve or GOG. Granted, Valve doesn't need to, because they are already the main player, but they also mostly avoided enshittyfication for now.

Granted it is hard to enter a market that is already dominated by another company, but instead of doing those business practices they could offer a better service.

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[–] Xenny@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (3 children)

You can't tell me that if epic somehow wins this war that they won't immediately enshittify the platform. Valve has my trust.

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[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 21 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Steam is a monopoly because it is the only one of these platforms to actually be good.

[–] bulok@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Epic can even beat them if they just improved their store, but they would rather fight other stores so that it would be worse for everyone.

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[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

epic can have a seat at the table when they actually start competing with valve in terms of features and customer service.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 days ago

so they can keep feeding a monopoly that licenses drm keys to them.

I guess I don't understand Epic's model. How is Epic different from Steam in this regard?

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 5 points 5 days ago

Steam is good, but competitors can only make it even better. Worst case it doesn't change.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Steam wins again by doing nothing

[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Oh hell yeah. This shit crazy good

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Sounds like it's time to play through the free games I got before epic folds like a card table and revokes my access to them.

In a sane world, the library could host the people's digital store front with no cuts taken from the sales. Gaming is our culture, we should preserve it. We should collectively own it. We should be free to sell the games without a middleman taking a cut.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 6 days ago

As long as Fortnite prints money, Tim gets to cosplay as a consumer crusader.

I think both Steam and Epic will let you generate codes to sell your game yourself, but this will attract a shit load of fraudulent credit card sales, and it's pretty much not worth doing.

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