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[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Ancient industrial machines use ancient windows computers. This has been known forever. There's a whole niche industry of very expensive ram and hard drives and other components keeping this industry going

[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Yeah man. Details are going to be fuzzy here, but I think it was only in recent memory where Boeing upgraded the planes in Japan to no longer need floppy disks.

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[–] lmuel@sopuli.xyz 39 points 4 days ago (5 children)

I know it's not exactly the point of the article but for a lot of things, I reckon a good amount of 'innovation' was pretty pointless. I personally don't think I ever needed anything that Office 2003 can't do... (Of course I don't use any MS office to begin with but you get the point)

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

=Let(), Lambda and Regex were good additions to Excel imo

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 38 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (8 children)

The elevator was running Windows XP.

Clearly an extreme case of overengineering. A elevator has no business running more than a few microcontrollers.

[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 4 days ago (14 children)

It's probably only the screen component that is running an old version of embedded windows.

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But how else can it be safe to connect to the internet?

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[–] perviouslyiner@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But how else can it book requests for priority access, and verify the credit card for whoever booked the elevator?

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I run a computer on Win7 at work, because it needs some important legacy software. It can't be containered because it has a nasty licence manager.

And my oscilloscope runs on Win98.

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 112 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Mail sorter for a company I worked for uses Windows 3.1.

My parents ancient HP from 1997, I sold the motherboard with popped capacitors for $250. I informed the buyer of the condition and he said he didn't care, he'd fix it, but they needed it for some legacy hardware their company functioned on.

[–] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 40 points 5 days ago (1 children)

😂 🤣

Similarly, my Dad ran his medical office on Win98 until he died (2011).

Of course, he had no support for OS or the medical office software other than himself (and me).

Had a supplier of inexpensive old machines/parts.

All cause he refused to pay the $5k required to upgrade the medical office software that ran on those machines. 🤷‍♂️

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 76 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I was tearing out ancient infrastructure for a new office and my eye kept going to a rectangular square box on the wall. Finally realized it was a PC! The cause of death was clear, PSU fan died, killed itself from heat. It was a form factor I had never seen, but standard nonetheless. It was running an answering machine system in DOS, still worked! Such a rare machine I've only found a single reference on the web and a single video about it. 1999, 486XS (I know, would kill for a DX, it's soldered on), upgraded from 2x 2MB SIMMs to a whopping 2x 64MB SIMMs. Imagine what that would have cost in the day!

LONG story, but I got it running Windows 95b. 3.1 was just too much challenge to get it networked and happy. Much pain was removed when I got a USB floppy emulator. Can't do jack without a floppy! Broke the network card drivers, need to start over. Had it running Doom with a legit SoundBlaster card and could RDP into over the network.

It was an amazing journey getting it all together and updated. Most of that knowledge is gone from the internet, and I sure don't remember all the tricks. Going to be my first token ring machine! LOL, had to get parts from Romania and trash cans.

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[–] oxf@sh.itjust.works 64 points 5 days ago (15 children)

At my old workplace, there was numerous XP machines still going. They were running old machine equipment, and basically served as a controller for the entire machine.

As it turns out, it was cheaper to keep these XP stations, instead of buying a completely new Hydrolic press, or whatever it was running, which cost several hundred of thousands of dollars.

One day one of these computers stopped working, and we immediately tried to get the software to work on a brand new W10 replacement. Took us a week of drivers hell, until we eventually went to the basement, found an exact replica, and swapped the HDD over.

The company, making these heavy machineries, went bankrupt in the early 2000s, and there was literally no way of getting the software to run on anything besides that original box.

[–] undrwater@lemmy.world 45 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I'd like a law that software / hardware companies who file for bankruptcies must release the source / files for their tech to an open source repository.

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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 22 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Yup. Take backups, have spares, and keep it off the Internet and it'll work just fine.

Pro tip, you can get IDE to CF adapters if you want to put an SSD in those old machines to really see them fly. Just be aware that they don't have nearly as good write durability as a real SSD, so keep write heavy operations on the HDD.

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[–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I'm disturbed that an elevator is running a desktop OS. How did this happen? Did they never hear of microcontrollers?

[–] viking@infosec.pub 39 points 5 days ago

My assumption would be that the display is not related to operating the elevator, but rather displaying information about businesses on the respective floors. I've seen those a fair few times, and since they run on isolated networks or even fully local, there's little risk.

[–] Thrawne@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago

Frighteningly, i worked as an admin at a hospitality wifi business that ran a windows box for dhcp duty. I would have to go o site, in the middle of the night, down to the basement of this hotel, and reboot the damn thing. It would die almost every week. Replaced with a linux server and never heard from them again.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

I could tell you the stories of W95 & XP that runs the medical world...

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 53 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Stuck or preferred choice?

Trapped using software they needed to buy once, vs rent?

[–] LorIps@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Yes, stuck. There are enourmous problems with different institutions having to use ancient PCs because the software doesn't work on modern ones, be they electron microscopes, hospitals or industrial machinery, causing e.g. enourmous security issues. This is one of the most important reasons why FOSS and why making FOSS software mandatory in government contracts is so important.

Also how come people can't read the fucking article before commenting?

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[–] theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'd still be using Windows 7 if I could.

[–] the_trash_man@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (18 children)

I mean, you can if you want to

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[–] KulunkelBoom@lemm.ee 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

MS DOS 6.6 for me - I enjoy the power of a 286 processor and much smaller instruction sets.

:O

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 39 points 5 days ago (3 children)

“Stuck”

Imagine being stuck using something that works for 30 years.

[–] MurrayL@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Right? If it still works then it still works.

If the article was talking about anything other than tech/software, we’d be praising its longevity.

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[–] PeteWheeler@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (10 children)

I would still be using Windows 7 if it was safe to connect to the internet.

I can't believe government systems are just open to cyber security like that.

Are there not cyber terrorists for some teenager that has tried to do anything with these unsecured systems?

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 4 days ago (6 children)

there's a word for those people: awesome

windows xp was peak; running anything before xp is legendary

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

Idk, it was horrendously insecure, would freeze a lot, and missing creature comforts like window tiling.

Tbh I think you're letting nostalgia blind you to XP's flaws a little.

If they kept refining Win7 it would've been great.

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[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (7 children)

"stuck" more like happy to not have to deal with the last 15-ish years of microsoft ruining everything they previously excelled at.

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[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 4 days ago

I’m visiting my parents in my home country after many years of not being there. I’m hoping my dad’s old pentium 2 laptop is still around.

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