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Libreoffice puts my docs where I tell it and they get synced to my other machines. Don't understand why people store docs on other people's computers. The business world is full of dumbarses leading dumbarses. You can't tell them though.
Surely this is a minor problem with an easy solution: choose "Save As..." from the menu, then select a folder on your local drive.
My God, THANK YOU! I've seen this article in five different places and everyone is losing their minds over this, seemingly completely oblivious to the fact that:
It's mind boggling how much people switch off their brains whenever they see Microsoft doing literally anything, and the entire conversation devolves into "Microsoft bad".
Could someone tell Microsoft I switched to Linux ten years ago? They don't have to encourage me anymore.
Is there no longer a "save as..." option to select where you want to save the file? 🤔
I have used Open Office for over a decade now so this is kind of a genuine question.
It's probably hiding somewhere in the ribbon. I had the mispleaure of using word and outlook the other day, on someone else's computer. Somehow I managed to save as an odt, somehow managed to attach end send it, only for the iPad not to be able to open the odt. Just said fuck it and went back to my lunix machine
There is
I love watching the world burn while I use Linux and LibreOffice.
I just wish work didn’t force me to take a front seat and interact with MS products anyway.
LibreOffice is so refreshing after dealing with MSOffice's bullshit and Google's web-based solution.
Wish M$ would just go full Sega and give Linux official multiplayer support. They suck giant Ds for making anticheat windows only.
I've been watching this thread, expected to hear this, but not yet ...
I know Google's office products are essentially the same problem, but they are at very least free (in dollars).
I haven't used MS Office in years. We use Google at work. I use my NextCloud at home.
I'll make One guess.
"Starting today, new documents in Word desktop on Windows (Insiders) now save directly to OneDrive, with autosave enabled,"
Yeah.
Index it all and train our AI on it.
Sell all your data to the Christian corporate fascist dictatorship, so they can use it to wage psychological and economic warfare on a global scale.
It matters not if you use Libre Office
Yup. Haven't used Word in decades.
Onedrive is Microsoft's attempt to make Home Windows users a revenue source by making it a subscription service. This has been SOP in smart phones for a decade now.
Makes me wonder if there is something in the terms that allows them to use documents stored on onedrive to train AI. Adobe is doing the same bullshit and keeps pushing you to send PDFs as Adobe cloud links instead of directly attaching the file to an email. They're doing everything they can to get your data on their servers.
We're no longer the customer. We're the product.
" Word will now save new documents to OneDrive by default — and that changes everything"
Wouldn't it be great if all your docs were stored out in the cloud? Just think, you wouldn't need a hard drive! And someone else could guard them for you, like, say, Deputy Dan. http://descope.kwwhitaker.com/wallofscience.html
Is this just for home edition? Or other editions as well. I work at a school with education edition, and I have a co-worker who said when I was helping the with their file management problems
me: just save to Desktop for now. We will fix it later. Them: I don't think I have a desktop.
I can't imagine how many other offices having to train their staff about all these new features.
You know how many times I’ve had to tell someone that document they created and have been working on for days was never saved even once and can’t really be recovered?
I remember this. From the 90's.
Autosave has existed AND been the default so long that taking it for granted is now actually okay.
This is not related cloud storage or corporates spying on users. It's just autosave. That's all it takes.
Gotta save once first.
Once upon a time it was like that. I don't remember which decade I saw that last.
Lemme guess, hundreds-to-thousands, also the people you're telling it to have business degrees and $100K+ salaries?
$1000/hr billing rates yes. Maybe 10 ppl/year.
I really hope they are incredibly good at a very specific thing that has nothing to do with where tf are their files.
Didn't this already happen? I feel like it's been the default for a long time now.
I'm sure that won't be an issue for anybody working with confidential, privileged or private information.
I would be shocked if this hasn't had some set of controls to disable it in Group Policy for months now.
This is just rent seeking against Home users.
People with One Drive through corporate Azure sjbscriptions (rather than the free "you have a microsoft login" tier) already have fairly robust controls available for handling and securing private data. There's even special Azure tiers for government work that are even further secured.
This is only going to impact home users and conpanies without strong IT teams. Which is an egregious amount of people, don't get me wrong. It's also a horrible anti-consumer move. But this isn't "Microsoft fucks over their golden calf: business users".
As a us organization you can choose between different MS cloud tiers. I know about 3, the basic tier for private customers, tier4 for large corporations and tier 5 for us gov and military organizations. My guess would be that it has something to do with which 3 letter agency can access your cloud data.
nope.
Only office and LibreOffice FTW!
It doesn't. Friends don't let friends bring Microsoft home.
Microsoft can't seem to figure out sync, ever since Briefcase, if you involve multiple computers you invariably end up with more and more conflicting copies. It's embarrassing.
Office itself is insanely bloated is a world with Markdown, open data formats, and easy access to scripting. They used some pretty unethical tactics to make OOXML a "standard" to stop governments from switching to an actual standard: ODF-based Libre Office.
I mean this softly, but I'm going to guess you haven't used OneDrive recently, and haven't used it where it's been set up in a competent manner. The default settings absolutely are not conpetent, espiecally for how messy computers for personal use get.
My workplace uses OneDrive to sync a specific set of user profile folders so we approximate having profiles and files that follow us without everyone needing a personal folder on a network drive that mounts at login.
The only issues we've had are profiles auto-downloading too mant of peoples files and eating drives on shared machines (so you just have your meeting room computers wipe all profiles every reboot and schedule reboots nightly), and I've had some issues where OneNote hadn't actually synced the notebook back to the cloud before I closed on one machine and opened on a different machine so I lost some notes.
Beyond that, it's handled even situations where I have the same file open siniltaneously on multiple machines smoothly. Syncs between login on multiple machines take 3 minutes max, and I can force it faster if I really need by pausing and resuming the sync.
I'm sure there's situations it's still not suited for, like editing and syncing large monolithic files (think video files over 1GB a piece). It probably sucks big time on personal machines where you're going to have a complete mess of every file type imaginable tossed in one big unorganized heap.
But configured correctly, for general business use, it can work very well.
Here's why it matters
I'm going to have to put together a script to block any instance of a headline that includes this phrase. It's so fucking overused.
"Why does knowing where my Word documents are stored matter?" Hmmm... let me fucking think, assholes.
It’s like they feel the need to remind us what the purpose of an article is
If only corporate agendas hadn't built industries around a single software suite! If only!
