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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 41 points 10 hours ago
[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 31 points 10 hours ago

About fucking time... But knowing our corrupt overlord fucks, they will just use matrix.org free service and conclude "it's not responsive enough, whelp, we tried..."

[–] KiwiTB@lemmy.world 14 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I've always heard matrix was so so at best. So this seems unwise.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 21 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Matrix is good. Element is not. It is a terrible application filled with bugs that ends up limiting the quality of other client applications.

[–] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 hours ago

Rocket.Chat seems to be doing well in Europe as well; they recently released their own native matrix implementation.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 10 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

I do think the EU should start with a more basic app like FluffyChat in testing but rebranded, then try to make their own app over the Matrix protocol that fits their specific communications needs and share that development publicly with open source.

[–] Samsy@lemmy.ml 1 points 30 minutes ago

German military uses matrix with their own messenger.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.bwi.bwmessenger

[–] KiwiTB@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Didn't XMPP already solve these issues a long time ago?

[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The biggest problem with XMPP is what various servers and clients implement is kind of all over the place. For instance, most clients support an older version of OMEMO, but some clients support newer versions, and the different versions are incompatible.

The other issue is some platforms (iOS in particular) have pretty shitty XMPP apps filled with bugs.

I still generally like XMPP more than Matrix since ATM Matrix clients are also filled with bugs/laggy, Synapse (the main server implementation) is very resource heavy, and message syncing is kind of shit if the client doesn't implement sliding sync (like FluffyChat). I personally think the UI for both XMPP and Matrix clients generally kind of suck, which isn't great for convincing non-techy people to use them.

[–] apftwb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I personally think the UI for both XMPP and Matrix clients generally kind of suck, which isn't great for convincing non-techy people to use them.

Ding ding ding. Make a Discord/Slack clone that does screensharing and drag/drop file sharing and I won't care if it uses XMPP or Matrix

[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

I think there have been some attempts to do so, but they're just not good enough (and/or end up dead after a while).

[–] ohnomorelemmy@piefed.social 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

This is a case where federation is nice. 

It's good to have an easy model for communication between members of different trusted organizations without requiring everyone to create a new account on a different server.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 7 points 8 hours ago

XMPP is federated

[–] JonnyRobbie@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Any matrix client available for both android and ios with video conference capabilities?

....

that might have sounded a bit too aggressive. My question is genuine. Family members needs.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 2 points 9 hours ago

Yeah. Compared to Teams, Matrix is fine. It's just far from a powerful tool built by people who actually give a shit.

[–] KiwiTB@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I've heard element, the common server software and even the protocol itself are also simply meh as well ... That's not a great start... And the name alone is a huge problem for adoption

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 9 hours ago

Element the server suite is fine - it's just a version of Synapse with rust and Python bindings.

[–] BC_viper@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago

I dont know how they are going to get people in the goo pods but I wish them luck.

[–] 2pNza@piefed.social 3 points 8 hours ago

they should try use Nextcloud Talk

[–] wioum@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago
[–] Melusine@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 2 points 9 hours ago

Why not xmpp with ejabberd or prosody and only one client for the workers ?

[–] enterpries@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago

Wow, they must have some really smart people making these suggestions.