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Authorities brought 20 police cars, five SWAT officers, and drones to her house

https://www.twitch.tv/grammacrackers/clip/CharmingSolidNoodleKevinTurtle-CCpMMy7EX_W4v7_S

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[–] daggermoon@piefed.world 9 points 45 minutes ago

This happens frequently enough where you'd think there would be a system in place to prevent this type of abuse.

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 15 points 2 hours ago

Why I quit MMOs and never looked back, because even more than 20 years ago toxic behavior was being normalized, and that included offline PK.

Fucking little assholes nearly killed a grandmother.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 43 points 3 hours ago (4 children)

Confused european here - why?

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 14 points 56 minutes ago* (last edited 55 minutes ago) (1 children)

Since guns are handed out in America like chocolate at a Willy Wonka publicity and outreach campaign, every law enforcement agency has to be kitted out to potentially combat a barricaded suspect who can rain a small militia's worth of lead on them and their surroundings. That's why the response team often includes armored vehicles, snipers, and crayon munchers armed to the tits. And because abusing emergency services doesn't cut into the profit of any big corporations, there are no effective means to seek justice against the offenders.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 15 points 51 minutes ago (3 children)

abusing emergency services

I don't understand - someone called the swat team on her? Why would they go to a private house with a giant swat force based solely on some anonymous tip? That makes no sense in my head.

[–] madasi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 46 minutes ago

Because they have the equipment and are always looking for an excuse to use it to justify the cost and training. And because the more they use it, the sooner they can get more of it.

It makes zero sense to a normal person, nor does their justification for needing the equipment in the first place, but once they have it they'll use it any chance they get.

[–] Brewchin@lemmy.world 1 points 14 minutes ago

Ever seen Stripes, the '80s action comedy film with Bill Murray and other notables?

There's a scene in it that I think of every time this kind of story crops up, where you have over-equipped and under-educated people who are trained to think that everyone's the enemy, and so prioritise their blood thirst and fear over everything else:

"All I know is I finally get to kill somebody!"

Their actions aren't about right/wrong or just/unjust, but that they were let off the leash to do what they have been conditioned to do.

So you get people calling in hoaxes to police forces who send militarised forces to raid grannies, young children, whomever. It's about the drama and lulz. Objectively horrifying.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 1 points 20 minutes ago

The US has lived in a state where any measure to squash terrorism would never be enough, for a long time. All you have to know is an address and say to the police that you heard a group of Arab looking middle aged men speaking of blowing up a place and a small army would be raised ready raze that domicile to the ground if necessary.

That's what happens when a group of people is armed beyond reason and in constant paranoia.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 points 25 minutes ago

Its called swatting. You call police and say someone is dangerous and they come running with all the gear to justify the bloated budgets. Kids were doing this pretty often in the news a decade ago. Especially to streamers.

[–] Nickelalloy@lemmy.world 12 points 2 hours ago

This has been my feeling latley as well with so many things going on in the US....

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[–] fargeol@lemmy.world 103 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Most american headline ever

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Oh this absolutely happens here in europe too, just not with such a needlessly large amount of cops. Makes it no less dangerous though.

[–] Foni@piefed.zip 7 points 39 minutes ago (1 children)

Do elderly women have to stream videos to pay for cancer treatments? My father has cancer, and all his bills this year add up to €0. Well, sometimes I leave the car in a paid parking lot; in the whole year it's probably been around €20.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 38 minutes ago

Oh no i meant the swatting part my bad.

[–] capnminus@lemmy.world 184 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

you have to be one sick twisted individual to be swatting a person, let alone a freaking elderly woman

[–] reseller_pledge609@lemmy.dbzer0.com 141 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

While she's trying to raise money for her grandkid's cancer treatment, no less.

Seriously, fuck whoever did this.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 53 points 4 hours ago

And fuck who ever supports a system that results in this..

[–] knightly@pawb.social 26 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (3 children)

Dark thought, what if a supporter did it, 'cuz that kid is definitely getting their treatment paid for now.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 3 points 24 minutes ago (1 children)

Grandma could have died...

[–] Darkenfolk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 minutes ago

Making the mother of all omelettes here, Jack! Can't fret over every egg!

[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 9 points 2 hours ago

Damn, it did make the news after all.

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Why do you think that? Do they mention some kind of payout in the video? It sounds unlikely to me.

[–] argarath@lemmy.world 35 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

No, but the attention they're getting is probably orders of magnitude bigger after this, and attention=money in this case

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 1 points 5 minutes ago

I'm afraid "Watch Streamer Get Swatted" is a saturated market. Likely breaking the age record may help though

[–] Soulifix@piefed.world 22 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

We're in Generation Duh where people think doing this kind of thing is funny. But it's funny only to them, was thought up of in 2 minutes, then discarded once any attention has been brought to it before they think of the next stupid idea that they think is funny.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

Stop being right about that!

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 26 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

Whoever did this needs to be charged with attempted murder. You can't expect that police get a report of a threat at a residence (like a bomb threat or a murder threat) and they show up without weapons. Shame police time and resources had to be wasted ruining this poor old woman's Minecraft night.

I guess on the up side, not many 82 year olds can tell their friends that they are important enough to have so many people show up to their house so late at night.

EDIT: Early news reports say that police received a call that said her grandson shot her (the 82 year old grandmother) and was threatening to kill himself. Completely reasonable response to that kind of a threat, if that is what the call was.

EDIT2: Apparently the police may have been able to catch it as SWATting early by confirming with the grandson himself? The way he seemed to talk, the police were cordial and weren't aggressive, as if their guard was down maybe? They cleared the home to make sure the threat was fake, but I guess they were apologetic to grammcrackers, and she seemed in good spirits about it at least.

[–] amorpheus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Whoever did this needs to be charged with attempted murder.

Doing that would raise certain implications, and validate a lot of concerns people have with police in the USA. I don't think that's likely to happen.

They should be charged with something, but I'm sure that won't become a legal case which confirms that the police is basically a blunt weapon that can be swung with a phone call.

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 24 points 4 hours ago (5 children)

Completely reasonable response to that kind of a threat, if that is what the call was.

I think twenty cars is still too many

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[–] kibblebits@quokk.au 96 points 6 hours ago (3 children)
[–] Soulifix@piefed.world 54 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

Never ceases to amuse me how they send a ridiculous amount of deputies to one situation. They couldn't agree on a team or maybe two qualified people, no, let's send the whole fucking department and have extras just incase.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 points 21 minutes ago

I wouldn't be surprised to see there is a episode of something where someone needs to do a crime in area so they pull this so all the cops are in other side of town.

[–] FellowEnt@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I was paid a dawn visit many years ago by an armed unit (UK). The way they ran it was two plainclothes (handguns only) officers knock on the door to assess the threat, with a van full of tooled up guys in balaclavas just outside, just in case. It was all very chill and no unnecessary stress/escalation for anyone. Seems like this would be a more sensible approach.

[–] daggermoon@piefed.world 2 points 38 minutes ago

It would indeed be a more sensible approach.

I'm frequently amazed that despite your countries declining standard of living it is still light years ahead of that of my own. I'm actually jealous. Please rejoin the EU as soon as it's convenient.

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 56 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Meanwhile, when an actual credible threat is ongoing: "We'll send our best confrontation avoider and check back in about 3 hours from now"

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 46 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I will never forgive Uvalde police for that school shooting situation. Not only did they do nothing to stop the shooter, they actively held back parents who were going to do the cops jobs for them.

If I remember right, 23 kids, and 3 staff members died that day in an attack that took hours, but should have been stopped in minutes. They arrived on the scene 6 minutes after being called. Then they let it go on and on and on.

I will never forgive Uvalde police.

[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 3 points 2 hours ago

Yeah but like... Weren't most of the kids brown-ish? /s

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[–] BillyClark@piefed.social 9 points 4 hours ago

All cops are idiots.

"ACAI"???

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 23 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Ok, so granny got swatted, why?

What was the police told about the situation?

Is there an article about this which explains the cause of this.

[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 46 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Those questions would only matter if this kind of police reaction wasn't almost exclusive to the US. So American police are idiots.

In Europe there were a few cases in France, but they led to changes in police procedures to verify reports more thoroughly before busting through doors.

[–] BillyClark@piefed.social 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

There are a lot of things that can be pointed at as to why this happens so much in the US. But I think most people forget that this is a problem that can literally be fixed using laws and technology.

Swatting can only happen because the US telecom system is so full of holes and because the US legal system isn't doing its job.

The primary thing you have to do is fix it so that the emergency operators can know where a call actually originated. And all we need to do to make that happen is to change the law so that telecom companies are held criminally and civilly liable when a person uses their infrastructure to fake where an emergency call is coming from.

Calls that come from foreign sources or from internet sources would harbor great suspicion. Imagine that the operator gets a big flashing notice that the call is suspicious right from the start.

I'm not saying that police and gun nuts and police gun nuts and incompetent police and nazi assholes don't have a lot of culpability, or that we shouldn't have severe penalties for people who do the swatting but the core fault lies in our elected representatives being too corrupt to hold telecom companies to account.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 7 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I don't think giving the police more surveillance options is the best option. The main problem is the extreme militarisation of the US police. This amount of force is a ridiculous response to almost any likely scenario they would have encountered.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 2 hours ago

they also get alot of surplus equipment from the military that is outdated, which makes it even worst.

[–] BillyClark@piefed.social 7 points 3 hours ago

That's not surveillance. That's basic service, allowing the recipient of a call to know who is actually calling them. The same thing would also stop a lot of scammers.

[–] cheeseburger@lemmy.ca 15 points 4 hours ago

Shit cops with shit people calling them in, while granny tries to raise money for medical treatment for her grandson... Your shit country is working as designed.

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 6 points 3 hours ago

This is where your tax money goes.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 12 points 5 hours ago

People fucking suck

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