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[–] tourist@lemmy.world 114 points 6 days ago (3 children)

2029 Headline: Worlds largest data breach caused by zero day exploit in popular PNG 3.0 renderer

the payload was reportedly embedded in an animated image of the attacker repeatedly flicking his left testicle

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

That was because they added 'shorts' and friend-lists to it.

[–] FrowingFostek@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 24 points 6 days ago

I bet it was a single flick and he ran it on a loop.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 148 points 6 days ago (32 children)

But is it backwards compatible with an old version that can't be updated?

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 91 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, this was my first thought. How many slightly older, no-longer-being-updated pieces of software will fail to open the new version? Hopefully it’s built in a way that it just falls back to legacy and ignores the extra information so you can at least load the file.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 55 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Popular photo and video editing apps like Photoshop, DaVinci Resolve, and Avid Media Composer already support it, alongside Chrome, Safari, and Firefox. Apple’s iOS and macOS also work with the new file standard.

This is all the article mentions. I hope you’re right about the backwards compatibility.

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 68 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I remember the Wild West Web days when it was a toss up seeing if animated Gifs, transparencies in images, or the specific hexadecimal for your personal shade of purple you created would render properly between browsers.

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 44 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 30 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Lies! That gif is sped up 2000%!

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 30 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)
[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

LOL, I heard that gif. Timed it in my mind, on the money OP.

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[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago (8 children)

I mean, that's already how animated .gifs work. If somehow you manage to load one into a viewer that doesn't support the animation functionality it will at least dutifully display the first frame.

How the hell you would manage to do that in this day and age escapes me, but there were a fair few years in the early '90s where you might run into that sort of thing.

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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 30 points 6 days ago

Speaking for animation, your browser probably already supports APNG. APNG is 21 years old and has decent adoption. But it’s officially part of the club.

That said, APNGs are fat as fuck and they’re a pretty old solution to animated graphics with an alpha channel. Don’t expect to see everyone making APNGs all of the sudden. There is a reason why people have kept it at a distance.

[–] Deebster@infosec.pub 20 points 6 days ago

Some of this is paving the cowpath - the animated PNG stuff is 20 years old and e.g. Firefox has had support since March 2007.

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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 60 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Animated PNG has been trying to be an extension to the PNG spec for 20+ years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APNG

Yep, it was one of the ways to have an animated avatar on BB forums.

Most recently, I have seen them being used in animated chat stickers (like on Signal).

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Right there's actually like a select few applications that support it which is cool, but so many get confused when they see an apng file with frames.

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[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 56 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

I could have sworn animated pngs were a thing in the Macromedia Fireworks days. Really dating myself with that ref.

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 49 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There were two different animated PNG extensions, MNG and APNG. Neither of them ever really caught on. I guess they're hoping to do better by baking it into the core spec.

[–] Deebster@infosec.pub 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

APNG is what they're using in v3, so all many libraries need to do* is update that code for HDR.

* surely that's easy, right?

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I mean, on a Linux system that's not riddled with flatpak / snap / ... You'd basically only need to update libpng and you'd be good.

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[–] Substance_P@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I miss the days when all the cool websites used Flash. I think Macromedia killed it for some reason. Probably because it had security flaws, back then it was pretty bandwidth-intensive too, but it made for some dynamic web designs.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 6 days ago

Flash had a myriad of problems. Web devs celebrated its death.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The current situation with megabytes of JavaScript is pretty bad, but at the time, there was still a fair bit of dialup active, and mobile web was just starting to be a thing - on EDGE and barely 3G. It would take minutes to load.

Also, Steve Jobs had it in for Flash and that’s what ultimately killed it off, I think.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Yes, the iPhone did not and never has supported Flash. At least not officially from Apple. There was support, albeit not quite 100% complete, on Windows CE/PocketPC at the time, though. That was one of the things that let me lord it over early iPhone adopters back in the day — my pocket nerd computer could play Homestar Runner videos, and their stupid expensive bauble couldn't. So there.

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[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

Flash was a security nightmare all round, not counting the security flaws. It was just designed without any security features. It was also terribly inefficient at its core job, that was supposedly vector animation. It filled a gap in a time where browser and standards where not that advanced.

Over time, Flash issues where never resolved, but the bloatness of the software kept increasing. Along the way, HTML got better specs, JavaScript got vast improvement, especially in everyone adhering to roughly the same standard (thanks microsoft for finally caving in…), and so the flash interpreter was highly redundant with the browser itself.

For a while flash editors could export in HTML5 and you'd get roughly the same result, but with a fraction of the resources requirements, so naturally there was little incentive to keep the flash player around.

I'm not sure if "killing flash" could be attributed to their author, or to the loss of interest.

Also note that alternative flash players exists to still play older swf files, and some sites uses them alongside with plain video conversion for flash animations that weren't dynamic.

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[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

It's great that Papua New Guinea is still receiving updates /s

[–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Would this be the Gif killer? If PNG can contain a relatively similar frame count & time limit but with marginally better image quality it just may.

[–] Zarxrax@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Fracturing support for a legacy format makes so much more sense than actually supporting a modern format like JXL, right?

[–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 13 points 6 days ago

If this actually stands a chance of taking off, I'll honestly take what I can get to normalise HDR images

[–] sturlabragason@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Is it pronounced png or png?

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 15 points 6 days ago

Jxl train choo choo

[–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 16 points 6 days ago

HDR capable PNGs that don't look shite on SDR displays? Sign me up!

[–] lemmyknow@lemmy.today 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Now if anyone don't mind explaining, PNG vs JXL?

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (8 children)

JXL is badly supported but it does offer lossless encoding in a more flexible and much more efficient way than png does

Basically jxl could theoretically replace png, jpg, and also exr.

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