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Ring founder Jamie Siminoff is back at the helm of the surveillance doorbell company, and with him is the surveillance-first-privacy-last approach that made Ring one of the most maligned tech devices. Not only is the company reintroducing new versions of old features which would allow police to request footage directly from Ring users, it is also introducing a new feature that would allow police to request live-st

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[–] Gmork@lemmy.ml 26 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

I don't like being under constant surveillance from my neighbors doorbell cameras. This is one of many excellent reasons why.

What I am going to do is use MapComplete to start labeling every house that I come across that has one of these doorbells.

Then I'll post some QR codes around town that link to the map.

Once people start seeing their homes called out on a map then perhaps some of them will feel uncomfortable with that and start to understand just why privacy matters.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I feel like this could backfire if lots of people have the cameras. They might be like, so what? Cameras are normal.

Or worse, thieves will see who doesn't have them and plan their hits accordingly.

[–] szymon@programming.dev 2 points 6 days ago

LoL, do it!

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 6 days ago (7 children)

Why do people want to see who comes to the door?

My brother installed one of these at his house and it makes me uncomfortable, but I know he probably feels safer and more in control by having it, and would value that over my comfort.

Then I start to gaslight myself, "why am I uncomfortable with the surveillance apparatus getting regular identifiable videos of me at a known location"?

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 8 points 5 days ago

FedEx drivers routinely lie about folks not being home to accept delivery, but in reality they never even go up to the door to ring the doorbell or knock on the bell. Having evidence that the driver never showed up can help dealing with FedEx to get a package that they repeatedly fail to deliver.

That's about it though, I don't actually have a doorbell camera at the moment (I did, but it died, and I haven't bothered to replace it), and I really resent the mass adoption of surveillance cameras pointed out at public roads and sidewalks, especially Ring cameras which have been repeatedly shown to be readily available to law enforcement.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

This seems to be exclusively American thing. I presume it's a big safety issue there. Here in Thailand people rarely even lock their doors let alone care about something like video doorbells.

[–] baerd@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

We had a burglary a couple of months ago, luckily we have an indoor camera which scared him away when he saw it and nothing was stolen. On the camera recording, we heard that he was ringing the doorbell for a couple of minutes to check if anyone is at home. We now have a camera doorbell (not Ring one though), if we had it then he would see it and avoided our house altogether.

[–] HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yeah we have a camera pointed at our driveway from our garage door. It isn't close enough to the road to trigger movement from people walking or driving by.

But if they come inside the fence it'll pick em up.

Also have a couple of cameras watching other random parts of the yard. We live on just under 2 acres, and it's all enclosed in chain link fencing. Next to us is an automotive maintenance shop owned by a buy here pay here lot a few miles closer to town, and they don't always hire the most trustworthy individuals to work on cars....

[–] camr_on@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Why would you not want to see who is at your door? Or know if there is a package there? Plenty of packages get stolen off of porches in my neighborhood

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 days ago

/boggle

How is that not obvious?

[–] HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Because of porch pirates.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 1 points 5 days ago

I mean I do, but I just use the peep hole like a normal person's

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yep still glad I've never trusted "smart-home" tech.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] ksigley@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

This is the way.

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