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[–] frustrated@lemmy.world 22 points 16 hours ago

Well yeah. Sam Altman just came out and basically said he needs a few trillion dollars and government backed loans. This shit is going to be BAD.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Yay, yet another once in a lifetime financial crisis.

[–] horn_e4_beaver@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 14 hours ago

Capitalism is the only way ;)

[–] OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago

Has anyone else noticed the recent resurgence of mechanical turk jobs? It's all AI training work. Before the work was doing tasks directly. Now they have people training tailored AI models.

In other words the tech bros have found get another way to shoehorn themselves in as a middle man. Instead of having workers do the work itself. Now the work is delegated to AI. Which is trained to do the task by humans.

At first it said the LLM era was the end of mechanical turk work. It's going in a circle back to mechanical turks again.

[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 22 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

This is in a category I'd like to call hopebait. People so badly wish things they feel are bad simply stopped themselves, that they'll upvote anything that appears to confirm this.

In this instance, there is nothing of substance in this article to suggest the end of anything is anywhere near in sight.

One guy, who makes bets constantly, made another bet.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 14 points 20 hours ago

Seriously the stock market can remain irrational longer than you can stay solvent.

People are idiots.

Is there a consensus there's an AI bubble? Sure?

Can anyone predict what will happen? LOfuckingL

[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 11 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (3 children)

There's an AI bubble?

I was pretty certain it was grifts all the way down lol

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

This is the most accurate take I have yet seen.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 2 points 20 hours ago

I'm thankfully OoL enough but I guarantee there are some AI backed crypto out there which is so deliciously awesome given the double down on smoke and mirrors.

[–] urandom@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

I think it's all the way up in this case

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago

If he needs a straight pin to pop it I can send him a couple

[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 17 hours ago

Now I most definitely don't want it to pop 🤣 moreso because the reality is the bubble popping doesn't hurt them it only hurts all the idiots who spent their meager earnings on this shit.

The rich never suffer, other than having to buy the smaller yacht.

[–] bignate31@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've got a problem with articles like this: "The guy who got it right once is betting a second time he's going to get it right". and then the article continues: "Even though he's got it wrong a bunch of times since, he got it right that one time... So this has gotta be his second time!!"

[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

The odds of being right x times in a row must be really low, correct?

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 45 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I just phoned a business today that ended up with an "AI receptionist" when they didn't answer the phone.

They wanted to take my name down, asked who I was leaving a message for, and then recorded the message...

My god what a painful process that was. It was absolutely useless. Firstly it got my name wrong, and then the name of the person I was leaving the message for wrong. No "Janet" my name is not Don it's John, and no I'm not leaving a message for Kim Its for Kam. And then it needs to repeat your entire message back to you in order to make sure it didn't fuck it up which amazingly the message was probably 95% okay but it was a giant waste of my time when a FUCKIN VOICEMAIL WOULD HAVE SUFFICED

[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Had an issue with Comcast today. They forced me to use their Xfinity app, but what I needed to do wasn't an apparent option within the app. The only option I saw was a support chatbot. The chatbot listed a link to the option I was looking for. The link opened a webview within the Xfinity app, in which there was a link to download the Xfinity app.

Unnecessary Apps and chat bots. Two of my least favorite things referring me back and forth, forever, in an endless loop.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

comcast is probably the worst cs, plus they always trying to pedal you shit.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 8 points 1 day ago

an online store, for games used a fully AI agent as a CS, it was giving them the run around, till i kept asking about escalting it, finally it was able to either contact them shortly or through email.

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[–] kljafgg9r0@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (4 children)

What does his height have to do with anything? Are we body shaming?

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 24 points 1 day ago (5 children)

My money is on the American bubble popping. China would do just fine. As to Europe's? Probably not developed enough to seriously impact them, but probably able to fill America's void once the bubble action has died down. America is pretty fucked in general, so it isn't so much AI in particular, but rather a ghost economy.

Something based on imaginary stocks, grift, de-industrialization, ghost jobs and falsified labor statistics, likely mixed with a debased dollar, just doesn't bode well.

[–] Muffi@programming.dev 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Most of the European digital infrastructure is caught in the web of Microsoft, and will be pulled down with it when Microsoft inevitably lose their bets on AI.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Pulled down how? They will just keep using office or azure or whatever. No changes.

Seems to me that the Microsoft stock may drop 20% but otherwise, what consequences will it really have on European markets?

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[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Something based on imaginary stocks, grift, de-industrialization, ghost jobs and falsified labor statistics, likely mixed with a debased dollar, just doesn’t bode well.

This is literally describes China, what are you even talking about?

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Burry also lost money since 2008 making shorts like Tesla. The Big Shart.

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[–] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 210 points 2 days ago (44 children)

If I had to make a guess, I say it probably will. The convenience of AI is probably here to stay, but the craze of replacing everything with AI will go out the door.

AI will become exactly what it should have been in the first place: an assistant. Not your friend, not your doctor, not your therapist, not a replacement for artists/authors/programmers, and not inside every piece of tech post 2025. It has a place. That place is over-embellished right now, not to mention unsustainable.

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[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nvidia down ~8% this week, Palantir down ~10%

Maybe the needle really is shifting.

[–] ButtermilkBiscuit@feddit.nl 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe, but he's also been super wrong a bunch of times on his skitzo twitter account so grains of salt and all that. Not saying the guy isn't smart, clearly called one of the biggest systemic crisis of our times, but he struck gold once and struck out a bunch more often.

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[–] duplexsystem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I do think there is an AI bubble, but "guy who bets against things, bets against the latest thing"

[–] bampop@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's like the dotcom bubble. Everyone got all excited thinking the internet would be the next big thing, change the world, revolutionize the way we do business. And it did. But not without a lot of hot air and snake oil getting sold along the way.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 57 points 1 day ago (23 children)

The fact that he was even able to make that bet is incredible. How deluded do you have to be to think the AI bubble won't burst? Keeping it going will require in ever-increasing amounts of money to paper over the gaping chasms that keep cropping up, and eventually the amount of money necessary to keep it going will cease to be feasible. Then, after taking gullible investor for all of they've got, the whole thing will fall over in the world's most well deserved and predictable market crash.

The subprime mortgage collapse was inevitable only in hindsight, you had to have a good understanding of the market to see it in advance. To see the level of corruption and false promises that have to be made in order to make the mortgage bubble possible. But everyone can see the AI BS right out in the open, I'm not talking about the "how many Rs are in strawberry" questions either, I can sort of see why that's not really a fair question. I'm talking about the fact that every single business that has ever tried to replace its employees with AI, has always failed, and failed almost immediately. Even Amazon couldn't make it work.

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 84 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

Some guy spending a billion dollars on pretty much nothing makes me deeply annoyed. Tax billionaires.

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